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  1. #21
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    Elysia Mazda
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister-Wonderful View Post
    He can mitigate it with a 20% which brings him to EQUAL your PLD constant mitigation. Warriors get 1 shotted all the time, even with inner beast, 8k hp means nothing compared. Inner beast also doesn't always last for all 3-4 hits you take around the time of death sentence unless you time it perfect everytime, which isn't hard but isn't doable everytime without slowing your dmg rotation to avoid GCD lockout.
    Gist of it is, I wrote the book on this design ages ago. Real business is that he's just whining about dying because he can't autopilot the fight while playing the easier tank.

    Quote Originally Posted by Imapooonu View Post
    Soooo Warriors are op now?
    According to bad paladins, yeah. Shocker, I know.

    //EDIT: Also, OP once again fails to realize that Stoneskin and Lustrate are nearly identical on both tanks.
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  2. #22
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    Pesmergia's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamemako View Post
    Gist of it is, I wrote the book on this design ages ago. Real business is that he's just whining about dying because he can't autopilot the fight while playing the easier tank.



    According to bad paladins, yeah. Shocker, I know.

    //EDIT: Also, OP once again fails to realize that Stoneskin and Lustrate are nearly identical on both tanks.
    Just no.

    Again the irony of your post cracks me up every time, keep them coming.

    Out of all of that data, none of it takes in consideration Thrill of Battle, ability cooldowns, and healer abilities that scale with HP.
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    Last edited by Pesmergia; 02-12-2014 at 02:01 PM.

  3. #23
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    Grembo Zavia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pesmergia View Post
    Just no.

    Again the irony of your post cracks me up every time, keep them coming.

    Out of all of that data, none of it takes in consideration Thrill of Battle, ability cooldowns, and healer abilities that scale with HP.
    Tbf at least Gamemako posted something tangible, you're claiming that War's don't have to worry about DS based on their "hpololol" and because some random War told you he doesn't have to worry about DS.
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grembo View Post
    Tbf at least Gamemako posted something tangible, you're claiming that War's don't have to worry about DS based on their "hpololol" and because some random War told you he doesn't have to worry about DS.
    I didn't say warriors don't have to worry, I said HE doesn't have to worry about DS.

    And if you cannot see "tangible" in 18% stoneskin on higher HP, and 3 25% lustrates every minute on higher HP, you're blind.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pesmergia View Post
    I didn't say warriors don't have to worry, I said HE doesn't have to worry about DS.
    You sure about that?

    *looks at op

    Quote Originally Posted by Pesmergia View Post
    you're blind.
    It's a possibility....

    Quote Originally Posted by Pesmergia View Post
    And warriors don't even have to worry about it, 8700 hpololol
    Haa, apparently i'm not that blind eh.
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grembo View Post
    You sure about that?

    *looks at op



    It's a possibility....



    Haa, apparently i'm not that blind eh.
    I was referring to my friend I spoke to:

    Quote Originally Posted by Pesmergia View Post
    Well my i90 FC mate is a warrior and we talked after my groups T5 run today, and he told me he simply doesn't have issues with getting gibbed. (inner beast)
    Right below it, same page, I guess you are blind, because that is what I meant.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pesmergia View Post
    I was referring to my friend I spoke to....
    Nah, i'm pretty sure your friend is a singular person (i'm a nice guy so i'll assume this friend is real) but here you are look ....and i'll highlight it for you..

    Quote Originally Posted by Pesmergia View Post
    And warriors don't even have to worry about it, 8700 hpololol
    Skip around it if it makes you feel any better but what you're saying is pretty clear to me, especially since you've moved on to ranting about Stoneskin and Lustrate being 2% more effective on War's now.

    Let it all out bro, let it all out.
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    Last edited by Grembo; 02-12-2014 at 02:36 PM.

  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grembo View Post
    Nah, i'm pretty sure your friend is a singular person but here you are look (i'll highlight it for you....).



    Skip around it if it makes you feel any better but what you're saying is pretty clear to me, especially since you've moved on to ranting about Stoneskin and Lustrate being 2% more effective on War's now.

    Let it all out bro, let it all out.
    Your math is as good as your comprehension. 2%? LOL! I don't know if you're trying to make yourself look bad, or are really trolling me.
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  9. #29
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    Tinoris Fallas
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    I haven't done Coil yet so forgive me if I am missing something, but wouldn't/couldn't you save your defensive cool downs for death sentance, since that is Twintania's major mechanic? WARs can do that without thinking about it with Inner Beast, I only have PLD at 30/BRD and WAR at 50, surely there is something you can save to mitigate DS.
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pesmergia View Post
    Your math is as good as your comprehension. 2%? LOL! I don't know if you're trying to make yourself look bad, or are really trolling me.
    Why would you even bring maths into it when my numbers had no context :/

    Eh, that reminds me of post #24 in this thread.
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