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  1. #31
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    Jon Bigwood
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    Odin
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Maelwys View Post
    The dragon can't use the ranged ability due to being pacified, but it still knows that it should be attempting to attack that randomly-picked target... so the result is that the dragon happily ignores the MT and runs away to use a melee autoattack on someone halfway across the map. The MT actually still has hate, and the dragon will run back to them a few seconds later... but to someone not keeping a close eye on the hate display it looks just like sudden aggro loss.
    Interesting! I think the dragon does not choose randomly, and the Giants also don't, at first when I started to use regen liberally (after usually not using it) I started to get attacked by Giants in King Behe, and sometimes (very seldom) the Bone Dragon run up to me, hit, and back to his place. Nemesis and Thanatos also target you much more if you happily cast regen a lot. When I cast regen with care, only when I think it is needed, this happens much less or does not happen.
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    Last edited by JonBigwood; 02-27-2014 at 07:37 PM.

  2. #32
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    Womble O'flaherty
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I came across another interesting one last night, when queued for a Duty Finder CT (me on my SCH, queued with a WAR friend)

    On the "Corridor" fight; We were on Party C and Party B wiped twice in a row.
    On the next attempt, my Warrior friend joined party B to help out; so I sent Eos in with him.

    It turns out that the corridors are close enough together that you can place a fairy in the next corridor and manually tell it to spam heals on the other alliance party's members - it'll be outside of "Rouse" range but not out of range for you to issue ability commands. Since with the latest patch you can now tell your fairy to cast Embrace on non-party members, this means that technically a really good SCH can main-heal two corridors at once.

    I ended up getting my fairy to main-heal their party (via Embrace spam on their tank who I kept focus-targeted, plus the occasional Whispering Dawn) whilst I main-healed our party (via normal targetting and Physick/Adlo/Lustrate). If I'd been a bit more practised I would've probably gotten away with using Cleric Stance too...
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  3. #33
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    Kakoo Onionhead
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I go full out DPS during Atomos and I would recommend both healers doing so. Just heal with Stoneskin and you'll be fine. If you have more than 2 melee DPS it will offset the challenge.
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  4. #34
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Kako0404 View Post
    I go full out DPS during Atomos and I would recommend both healers doing so. Just heal with Stoneskin and you'll be fine. If you have more than 2 melee DPS it will offset the challenge.
    Scholars have this easy. I just sit in Cleric Stance, place the fairy within range of where the tank pulls, and let her heal. I use Lustrate to help out the fairy if absolutely necessary, since Lustrate doesn't require dropping Cleric Stance for full effectiveness. As an added bonus, if DPS is slow enough on the adds so that the previous one is still alive when the next appears then I use all 3 DoTs and bane them to the new add, and then refreshing any that are about to fall off on the new add. If DPS is fast and they're dropping before the next add spawns, then I just Bio once and Ruin spam each add. And obviously maintain Shadowflare wherever the tank likes to pull to.
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  5. #35
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    SummonerSenah's Avatar
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    Senah Kha
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 90
    WHM can cast regen on the pots, too. I haven't healed CT myself but my WHM friends say tossing regen on the pots helps them save a lot of mana.
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  6. #36
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Discover View Post
    Today i went into CT for the first time as bard to find how bad healers are at their job...
    Bad healers? More like bad DPSes out there.

    Played more than 10 times in CT last night, seen enough DPSes and even ranged one taking obscene amount of damage and making the healers heal their ass off and ressing them until almost OOM.

    When you got a good party (that doesn't take damage for nothing) and if you're lucky to pair up with another WHM (I'm playing WHM), keeping the whole team up with 2x Medica II = AFK and have some finger food lol. If paired with a SCH, make sure whole team is stone skined + galvanized should be good enough.
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  7. #37
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    Jesse Branford
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Some great tips, some ones that need to be revised.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrinn View Post
    Stop spamming Medica II.
    Medica 2 spam is great in crystal tower. It has 5 yalms more radius (10 yards total more reach) than medica. If you're not running out of MP or pulling, you should probably be using Medica 2 in crystal tower because the battle fields are so large.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrinn View Post
    Acheron always uses Quake after Megiddo Flame and Quake III after Moonfall Slash.
    Pre-cast your Medica/Medica II/Succors please. People shouldn't be dying to the hands because they got grabbed at 500 hp because you took 5 seconds to react.
    Succor won't absorb any of Acheron's AoEs. Neither will Stoneskin. Not sure if it's a bug or intended.

    My personal tip:

    If you're an Scholar -- keep shadowflare down on behemoth 100% of the time. There probably isn't a summoner doing it and he's one of the few bosses in the games that can be affected by slow (there are other crystal tower bosses too, but behemoth is the most important one for this as tanks really don't die on other fights.)
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  8. #38
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by reality_check View Post
    Medica 2 spam is great in crystal tower. It has 5 yalms more radius (10 yards total more reach) than medica. If you're not running out of MP or pulling, you should probably be using Medica 2 in crystal tower because the battle fields are so large.

    Succor won't absorb any of Acheron's AoEs. Neither will Stoneskin. Not sure if it's a bug or intended.
    Yup, Medica 2 is awesome in CT. As long as your team is not a complete flop, if you happen to have 2 WHM, just both WHM keep Media 2 up on the team and the healers can practically AFK for a while.

    As for Succor/SS, noticed that for Archeon too but I can't recall which attack of his actually can break the SS.
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  9. #39
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    Jesse Branford
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    Yup, Medica 2 is awesome in CT. As long as your team is not a complete flop, if you happen to have 2 WHM, just both WHM keep Media 2 up on the team and the healers can practically AFK for a while.

    As for Succor/SS, noticed that for Archeon too but I can't recall which attack of his actually can break the SS.
    Only his physical attacks will be absorbed by stoneskin. All his AoEs will bypass shields.
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  10. #40
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    M'kael Jin
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 3
    Quote Originally Posted by reality_check View Post
    Medica 2 spam is great in crystal tower. It has 5 yalms more radius (10 yards total more reach) than medica. If you're not running out of MP or pulling, you should probably be using Medica 2 in crystal tower because the battle fields are so large.
    When I said spamming, I meant literally spamming. You don't cast 3 Medica IIs in a row because you're expending more MP for a weaker heal. You use Medica II to apply the AoE regen and then Medica if needed. And yes, I've seen healers (sadly) spam Medica II *looking at you 1-tower-down-on-Behemoth* and then wonder why they can't keep up.

    Succor won't absorb any of Acheron's AoEs. Neither will Stoneskin. Not sure if it's a bug or intended.
    Only Quake and Quake III bypass shields, but I mentioned Succor more for the AoE heal component (shield doesn't hurt either is someone gets grabbed after).

    I'll add the Shadowflare tip to the list if you don't mind.
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    Last edited by Lyrinn; 03-06-2014 at 12:44 PM.

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