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  1. #21
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    Sirantha's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Sirantha Swift
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido View Post
    I forget the names of the demons themselves; but on the Allagan Bomb fight right before Behemoth, I've been seeing tanks get poisoned; and nobody is using Esuna to cure them.
    Sadly I've noticed this isn't exclusive to that fight/CT. Esuna/Leeches, use it please!

    Also, I am a firm believer that all WHMs should have Regen on the MT at all times. I've yet to see anyone taking hate for it. Particularly in the Behe fight, pop Regen on the tank!
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  2. #22
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    Maelwys's Avatar
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    Womble O'flaherty
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyaanyaa View Post
    In what situation would you ever get hate from the Bone Dragon as a white mage?
    Speaking as a Tank, you usually don't actually get hate (barring something VERY wrong happening) but what happens is that the MT is a PLD and uses Shield Swipe.

    The Pacify effect causes issues with the Bone Dragon's AI - namely the "Cast a ranged AoE ground patch on a random target" ability. The dragon can't use the ranged ability due to being pacified, but it still knows that it should be attempting to attack that randomly-picked target... so the result is that the dragon happily ignores the MT and runs away to use a melee autoattack on someone halfway across the map. The MT actually still has hate, and the dragon will run back to them a few seconds later... but to someone not keeping a close eye on the hate display it looks just like sudden aggro loss.

    Also, the more conscientious CT healers amongst you might want to take a quick glance over this - The bone dragon fight has a particularly nasty mechanic to watch out for in the last tanking phase called "Chaos Breath". (the TL;DR version is that the MT will suddenly take an amount equal to 70% of their current maximum HP shortly after you see the boss cast Evil Eye, so be sure to get them well topped up. Happens once every 30 seconds on that phase!)
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  3. #23
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    Kasandaro's Avatar
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    Caelus Kasandaro
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    gotta say, a 9k+ WAR with six Regens on him (yes, it works cross-party) is a thing of absolute beauty.
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  4. #24
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    zaviermhigo's Avatar
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    Zavier Mhigo
    World
    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    CT as a healer is painstakingly boring, I don't even get why people need this, they must be really really really bad. I mean don't get me wrong I've encountered some people who are really bad. Healing parties that can't heal their main tank is just way more likely. Like having two healers but for some reason they can't heal the MT through KB; when two good healers can heal the MT and the Iron Giant easily, not even well geared maybe mostly ilvl 70.
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    Last edited by zaviermhigo; 02-22-2014 at 03:50 AM.

  5. #25
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    Discover's Avatar
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    Lunar Deimos
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Only thing i've really learned from CT is when your a white mage on bone dragon save shroud of saints because tanks and dps will leave you to die once you pull skelly's or even the floating eyes when dps is slow.

    Today i went into CT for the first time as bard to find how bad healers are at their job...
    KB fight - healers used cure II on low damaged party members and used medica II multiple times instead of swapping to cure III or medica I once the tick was applied and was out of MP within a matter of minutes while i got no heals and died from the electric floor.
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  6. #26
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    Lyrinn's Avatar
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    M'kael Jin
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 3
    Quote Originally Posted by zaviermhigo View Post
    CT as a healer is painstakingly boring, I don't even get why people need this, they must be really really really bad. I mean don't get me wrong I've encountered some people who are really bad. Healing parties that can't heal their main tank is just way more likely. Like having two healers but for some reason they can't heal the MT through KB; when two good healers can heal the MT and the Iron Giant easily, not even well geared maybe mostly ilvl 70.
    I've been leveling BRD lately, and I can say there are a lot of bad healers out there, which is absolutely frustrating as I'm leveling because I give them advice on how to heal better and they ignore me - because what would a DPS know about healing - and then they expect Mage's Ballad 2 minutes into a boss fight. My options are either to wipe by not giving them MB or give them their mana crutch and feed their bad habits. CT is no exception.
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  7. #27
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    Mirakumi's Avatar
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    Character
    Lady Zelda
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 92
    As a sch and our awesome mana management I would promote that if you see another group dying - go ahead and run over and pick them up/raise them. (Especially their healers.) It can save a wipe from happening.
    Also don't be greedy on heals. Heal other tanks.

    I actually was in a group today on my dd and a SCH healer in my PT was joking that the other grps tank was dying on bone dragon. (He was MTing it.) Please just because your group is not doing anything, do heal others. Especially on behemoth. v.v;
    Makes me want to be on my healer 24/7 to help other groups live on. lol
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  8. #28
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Divine Gate
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    Exodus
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirantha View Post
    Sadly I've noticed this isn't exclusive to that fight/CT. Esuna/Leeches, use it please!

    Also, I am a firm believer that all WHMs should have Regen on the MT at all times. I've yet to see anyone taking hate for it. Particularly in the Behe fight, pop Regen on the tank!
    With either WHM or SCH I usually focus target the MT for the fights with a single boss. Like you say on BK even with only 3 WHM that's a 450 potency heal every 3 seconds. So definitely a huge help for the party with the MT
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  9. #29
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    LunarEmerald's Avatar
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    Lunar Emerald
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    Leviathan
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hysterior View Post
    Also, full dps during atomos. Dont stay there waiting for damage to heal.

    You're out of range if you're on the platform. No range attack goes far enough. Which is why the tank has to pull adds a little closer.
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  10. #30
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    Lyrinn's Avatar
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    M'kael Jin
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 3
    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    You're out of range if you're on the platform. No range attack goes far enough. Which is why the tank has to pull adds a little closer.
    What he probably means is full DPS on the adds. As a WHM, you can spam Stone II in Cleric Stance and use Stoneskin after every add kill. If the tank does take a fair amount of damage after Stoneskin is broken, turn off CS, use Divine Seal + Regen (+ one Cure if necessary) and go back into Cleric Stance. As a SCH, you can do the same thing with Stoneskin but your fairy should be able to solo heal.

    I chose to be conservative in my original post, but if the tank is geared and both healers are comfortable with Cleric Stance dancing, both healers can go full time DPS.
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