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    Nyaanyaa's Avatar
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    Nyaanyaa Mewmew
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonBigwood View Post
    Could you give tips about when and when not use regen? It may be very useful since the maps are big and people may be out of reach, tanks away from each other, and tanks won't lose aggro easily, but the abuse can also be dangerous in some circumstances (attract aggro from Bone Dragon, or from Giants, Nemesis,...)
    In what situation would you ever get hate from the Bone Dragon as a white mage? I keep a Regen on the MT at Bone Dragon and at Behemoth at all times. Many times I see no Regen on the MT except for mine, and many times when I MT these fights I see no Regens on me at all, so I'm sure the tank will appreciate it. Aside from that, I use Regen on people that were out of reach of Medica 2 if/when I use it (usually at behemoth), Regen on the MT in my party during Allagan Bomb (not necessarily 100% of the time), and I cast Regen on any MP sponges in my party that inexplicably run into every AoE. The only other situation I can think of is someone needing cures, but I have to move out of some AoE (since Regen is instant and I can cast it while moving).
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Adore Mi
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    I use Regen all the time in CT and never take on hate. It's perfect for a lot of the situations in CT, especially at Bone Dragon and Behemoth (along with Medica II).
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    Womble O'flaherty
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyaanyaa View Post
    In what situation would you ever get hate from the Bone Dragon as a white mage?
    Speaking as a Tank, you usually don't actually get hate (barring something VERY wrong happening) but what happens is that the MT is a PLD and uses Shield Swipe.

    The Pacify effect causes issues with the Bone Dragon's AI - namely the "Cast a ranged AoE ground patch on a random target" ability. The dragon can't use the ranged ability due to being pacified, but it still knows that it should be attempting to attack that randomly-picked target... so the result is that the dragon happily ignores the MT and runs away to use a melee autoattack on someone halfway across the map. The MT actually still has hate, and the dragon will run back to them a few seconds later... but to someone not keeping a close eye on the hate display it looks just like sudden aggro loss.

    Also, the more conscientious CT healers amongst you might want to take a quick glance over this - The bone dragon fight has a particularly nasty mechanic to watch out for in the last tanking phase called "Chaos Breath". (the TL;DR version is that the MT will suddenly take an amount equal to 70% of their current maximum HP shortly after you see the boss cast Evil Eye, so be sure to get them well topped up. Happens once every 30 seconds on that phase!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maelwys View Post
    The dragon can't use the ranged ability due to being pacified, but it still knows that it should be attempting to attack that randomly-picked target... so the result is that the dragon happily ignores the MT and runs away to use a melee autoattack on someone halfway across the map. The MT actually still has hate, and the dragon will run back to them a few seconds later... but to someone not keeping a close eye on the hate display it looks just like sudden aggro loss.
    Interesting! I think the dragon does not choose randomly, and the Giants also don't, at first when I started to use regen liberally (after usually not using it) I started to get attacked by Giants in King Behe, and sometimes (very seldom) the Bone Dragon run up to me, hit, and back to his place. Nemesis and Thanatos also target you much more if you happily cast regen a lot. When I cast regen with care, only when I think it is needed, this happens much less or does not happen.
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    Last edited by JonBigwood; 02-27-2014 at 07:37 PM.