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    Lyrinn's Avatar
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    M'kael Jin
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 3

    What can I do for double wicked wheel as a WHM?

    I've gone as far as using both Eye for an Eye and Virus on Garuda and the MT still gets instagibbed. The only thing I can think of is to Swiftcast Stoneskin but I'm having trouble predicting the exact timing on WW.
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    Taika's Avatar
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    That's all you need to do, the rest is on tank: they should use defensive buff for it. Of course you should also be casting cure 2 on tank so that they'll get healed right after.
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    Sir Stalkster
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Tank issue,
    Rampart+Foresight > WW x2= 60-50%HP left on Pld.
    Vengence+ToB > WW x2= 60-50%HP left on War.
    This is not even counting sch buffs/virus/stoneskin etc. I've seen WW x2 hit my Pld for 0dmg with SS+Adlo+Sentinel+Rampart+Foresight.

    Or dps not killing suprana fast enough and making garuda+suprana WW x2, 2times. Can still be livable saving sentinel/Hallowed on Pld, Or IB+foresight on War.
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    Last edited by Stalkster; 03-02-2014 at 08:05 PM.

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    Rena Cebe
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 1
    I've had tanks taking barely any damage. Solo healing with Selene.
    I wasn't even using Virus... :P
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    Pharazon Kensaki
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    Gilgamesh
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    During the WW portion all you can really do as a WHM is make sure to have eye for an eye or virus up (shouldn't need both but doesn't hurt), regen, and stoneskin. Until you get better at predicting WW I would recommend burning a little extra mana maintaining stoneskin on the tank for the period you think that WW is going to land. Make sure you are also precasting your heals during that portion as well so that when they land you have the best chance of picking up the tank immediately. You can also forgo swiftcasting stoneskin since you are going to be trying to maintain it a bit more and use your swiftcast on cure II. You have a few different things you can do to try and maximize your healing but ultimately this is also a tank mechanic and they need to be helping by using cd's properly. So if you feel you are utilizing everything at your disposal then it is probably something the tank isn't doing.
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    Diezel Lon'dik
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    Cactuar
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    I'm a tank. That being said, is up to tanks to absorb that damage correctly. Its on you to mitigate damage at the right time, and spam cure 2 at the right times. Focus target Garuda. When you see her cast Friction, get ready. But you can not single handedly save a tank from this
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    Husband's Avatar
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    Flash Silver
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    Ragnarok
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Look for friction. Then comes the WW

    But our OT takes Suparna first and I take Garuda and Chirada.

    Honestly there isn't much difference.

    Try keep a cool down but you won't always have one available.

    Have a great healer that knows when spike damage is coming.
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    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Husband View Post
    But our OT takes Suparna first and I take Garuda and Chirada.

    Honestly there isn't much difference.
    We do this as well, the DD just have to make sure Suparna dies fast enough so she doesn't swap with Garuda.
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    Marcusow86's Avatar
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    Natsu Sousuke
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrinn View Post
    .... but I'm having trouble predicting the exact timing on WW.
    Yup, you pretty much nailed it. You need to know when WW is coming, usually after friction or between friction. You stoneskin hardcast the tank, cast cure II right as WW hits.

    Of course, if your tank did not pop any cooldown/buff, no healing in the world can save his ass. (ask him to pop 2 mitigation CD for each double WW phase)
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    Leprov Zodiac
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    As said previously, if your MT dies on double WW, it's either he didn't use def CD properly, or he is way undergeared. I'd say with less than 6k2HP unbuffed, it's hard to say you won't ever be insta killed by double WW. As stated previously by another one : rempart + foresight (as a PLD) is what your MT must do. By the way, I personnally add flash since both garuda and sisters aren't immune to the blind debuff.
    Friction => stop everything, cast rempart+foresight+flash
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