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  1. #1
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    Lyrinn's Avatar
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    M'kael Jin
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 3
    Quote Originally Posted by Nailkita View Post
    Please keep your Magic Pots Focus Targeted so you can help out if the other healer is otherwise occupied. Lately it seems like tanks are ignoring the adds leaving them on healers, and the pots are dying more often, the last 2 weeks of CT I'm amazed thantos gets downed as there's usually only my team's pot left alive and then just barely.
    That's a good one. I forgot to list it because I focus target everything so it's second nature to me. I'll add it to the list if you don't mind.
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    Hulan's Avatar
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    Alec Temet
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    Midgardsormr
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    This one hardly even bares mentioning, but as a SCH you can bump up your damage by a fair amount in Atomos (which saves the tank almost as much trouble as healing does) by placing your fairly about 3/4ths of the way toward Atomos. She doesn't need to be on the platform, so why leave her there? You can then micro her, or just leave her on auto (she'll pick up the piddling damage your damage dealers are taking even on auto and even keep the tank up without any outside help in my experience) and focus more on taking down the adds with the rest of the back group.
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    Jon Bigwood
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    Odin
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Could you give tips about when and when not use regen? It may be very useful since the maps are big and people may be out of reach, tanks away from each other, and tanks won't lose aggro easily, but the abuse can also be dangerous in some circumstances (attract aggro from Bone Dragon, or from Giants, Nemesis,...)
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    Nyaanyaa's Avatar
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    Nyaanyaa Mewmew
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by JonBigwood View Post
    Could you give tips about when and when not use regen? It may be very useful since the maps are big and people may be out of reach, tanks away from each other, and tanks won't lose aggro easily, but the abuse can also be dangerous in some circumstances (attract aggro from Bone Dragon, or from Giants, Nemesis,...)
    In what situation would you ever get hate from the Bone Dragon as a white mage? I keep a Regen on the MT at Bone Dragon and at Behemoth at all times. Many times I see no Regen on the MT except for mine, and many times when I MT these fights I see no Regens on me at all, so I'm sure the tank will appreciate it. Aside from that, I use Regen on people that were out of reach of Medica 2 if/when I use it (usually at behemoth), Regen on the MT in my party during Allagan Bomb (not necessarily 100% of the time), and I cast Regen on any MP sponges in my party that inexplicably run into every AoE. The only other situation I can think of is someone needing cures, but I have to move out of some AoE (since Regen is instant and I can cast it while moving).
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Adore Mi
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    Jenova
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I use Regen all the time in CT and never take on hate. It's perfect for a lot of the situations in CT, especially at Bone Dragon and Behemoth (along with Medica II).
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    Maelwys's Avatar
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    Womble O'flaherty
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyaanyaa View Post
    In what situation would you ever get hate from the Bone Dragon as a white mage?
    Speaking as a Tank, you usually don't actually get hate (barring something VERY wrong happening) but what happens is that the MT is a PLD and uses Shield Swipe.

    The Pacify effect causes issues with the Bone Dragon's AI - namely the "Cast a ranged AoE ground patch on a random target" ability. The dragon can't use the ranged ability due to being pacified, but it still knows that it should be attempting to attack that randomly-picked target... so the result is that the dragon happily ignores the MT and runs away to use a melee autoattack on someone halfway across the map. The MT actually still has hate, and the dragon will run back to them a few seconds later... but to someone not keeping a close eye on the hate display it looks just like sudden aggro loss.

    Also, the more conscientious CT healers amongst you might want to take a quick glance over this - The bone dragon fight has a particularly nasty mechanic to watch out for in the last tanking phase called "Chaos Breath". (the TL;DR version is that the MT will suddenly take an amount equal to 70% of their current maximum HP shortly after you see the boss cast Evil Eye, so be sure to get them well topped up. Happens once every 30 seconds on that phase!)
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    Jon Bigwood
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    Odin
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Maelwys View Post
    The dragon can't use the ranged ability due to being pacified, but it still knows that it should be attempting to attack that randomly-picked target... so the result is that the dragon happily ignores the MT and runs away to use a melee autoattack on someone halfway across the map. The MT actually still has hate, and the dragon will run back to them a few seconds later... but to someone not keeping a close eye on the hate display it looks just like sudden aggro loss.
    Interesting! I think the dragon does not choose randomly, and the Giants also don't, at first when I started to use regen liberally (after usually not using it) I started to get attacked by Giants in King Behe, and sometimes (very seldom) the Bone Dragon run up to me, hit, and back to his place. Nemesis and Thanatos also target you much more if you happily cast regen a lot. When I cast regen with care, only when I think it is needed, this happens much less or does not happen.
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    Last edited by JonBigwood; 02-27-2014 at 07:37 PM.

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    synesthetic's Avatar
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    Rihael Eden
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    Hyperion
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    The only times I can think of to not use Regen would be on tanks who are about to mob up all of the homunculi or valars in the first two rooms.. Wait until after the names turn red, then cast it.
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    Kasandaro's Avatar
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    Caelus Kasandaro
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Two things I've found:

    WHM
    On the West Path, as soon as a tank gathers the elementals and the valar, you have one of the better AoE damage spells in the game. Get your hate on. And for most pulls, there is no earthly reason to not pop Cleric's at the start, toss a few Aeros, and go back to healing.

    SCH
    Shadow Flare's slow effect is noticeable, even if the spell's dot from a scholar isn't. If none of the SMN are casting it and you don't think you'll need Sacred Soil, put the mob in a snowglobe.

    Honestly, the only time I can think of that Sacred Soil is useful in Acheron's Moonfall Slash, because of the Quake III that follows. The rest of the time that the party takes a large enough spike of damage to make SS more efficient than Lustrate, the party's taking damage that a) can be avoided (Meteor), or b) shouldn't be happening (Platinals, Allagan Napalm).
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    Ainslie Tinley
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    Omega
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrinn View Post
    Magic Pot at Thanatos can be full healed with just two Lustrates.
    This is for the SCHs. If, for whatever reason, you neglect to heal your pot normally, then you can double Lustrate it to break the tether. If you have a SCH in your party and your pot gets chained all the way to Thanatos, that SCH is bad and should feel bad.
    This, oh this so much. I hate when I'm in party with a SCH and have to heal spam the pot myself...wasting time and mana I could use to heal the party, while maybe the scholar is doing nothing or just healing the party. Please, if a scholar is in the party whm shouldn't be the one ehaling the pot possibly.
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