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    Player
    Umero's Avatar
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    Character
    Mero Mero
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50

    Can We Change that...

    Dear SE,

    Can we change the way healing spells can be cast without a target to a target must be needed in order to cast a healing spell? Or, at least give us an option for that?

    Because, it's frustrating to do a quick heal by typing F2 (for the 2nd player listed on the party list) and Lustrate for trying to heal the player while the player is standing out of range... we got no message about the player is out of range but instead, Lustrate is used on self. This really needs to work on.
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    N'kilah Razhi
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Out of range targets should already give an error message instead of defaulting targeting to yourself. o_O
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    Player
    Estellios's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Yoso Carrasco
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 77
    Quote Originally Posted by Espon View Post
    Out of range targets should already give an error message instead of defaulting targeting to yourself. o_O
    Same for me. If you are using a macro with multiple targeting conditions it is probably due to that.
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    Character
    Olwen Mercier
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Are you using a macro to use lustrate (like /ac "Lustrate" <t> [line] /ac "Lustrate" <me>)? If you aren't, you should be getting an error message saying the target is out of range or that the move can't be used on the specified target (like if you tried to use it on an enemy). Otherwise it should only default to you if you have nothing targeted or an enemy targeted.

    It could be that if you're using a mouse over healing macro it doesn't give you the message, but I'm not sure (I mainly play on PS3, my PC doesn't run the game well enough). Otherwise I'm really not sure why it would default to you.
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    Kaisha's Avatar
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    Character
    Kaishen Commodore
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 80
    I could go for out-of-range/untargetable(re: Gaol'd/Conflag/etc) members in your party list to show up with a grey name or something signifying you can't touch them.
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    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    Out of range targets give an error message when you try to use a spell on them, even for <tt> macros.

    If you have a <t>/<me> or <tt>/<me> macro...that's probably why you aren't getting an error; it just goes to the line that can be executed, which is a self-cast.
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    Character
    Nyaanyaa Mewmew
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    The problem is not curing a target that's out of reach. The problem is hitting F2-F8 to select or trying to select a character with your mouse from your party list and then casting a cure or whatever.... only to find that player was out of reach, so you could not target them and end up casting on yourself or whoever you still have selected... which I agree is annoying. I like Kaisha's suggestion a lot.
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    Husband's Avatar
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    Character
    Flash Silver
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Use mouseover <mo>
    Get a Razer naga 12 button mouse
    Left hand sits on W A S D for dodging etc.
    Right hand hovers mouse over party list
    Right thumb for casting everything and easy mode

    Win
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    Nyaanyaa Mewmew
    World
    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Husband View Post
    Use mouseover <mo>
    That's a workaround, not a solution, and a dirty one at that. Using <mo> will not allow you to use your mouse in other ways while selecting targets/casting spells, e.g. you couldn't use it to rotate your camera at the same time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Husband View Post
    Get a Razer naga 12 button mouse
    Left hand sits on W A S D for dodging etc.
    Right hand hovers mouse over party list
    Right thumb for casting everything and easy mode
    I'm sorry, but that has nothing to do with anything in this thread.
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    Player
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    Flash Silver
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyaanyaa View Post
    That's a workaround, not a solution, and a dirty one at that. Using <mo> will not allow you to use your mouse in other ways while selecting targets/casting spells, e.g. you couldn't use it to rotate your camera at the same time.
    Seriously? It's a great solution and very flexible and really useful. Of course you can move your camera easily with right click...

    Learn to play before saying something like that ><

    Mouseover is excellent....

    As for range? stand closer....

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