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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reborn View Post
    The area should only be accessed via the entrance however, and would give people a reason to traverse the open world, instead of sitting in a camp/city/lobby and waiting for Duty Finder...
    Your right sitting around in duty finder just to explore dungeon would become old very quickly which it all ready has. And being able to enter through the main entrance of that dungeon would be the best idea. SE could make it so we have to Zone into the area from the main entrance for the area to load. That's the best way to do it cause if you haven't unlocked and completed that dungeon then you can't go in.
    Should any level be able to go in once completed and unlocked of course, so it is fare but it would be at ur own risk to go in and explore at a low level lol.

    Which would make it fun see how far you can go with out dieing lol.
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    anytime i want to explore, i just wait til we've cleared it and everyone leaves. i like to stand around like i'm waiting for loot...or afk....then when they are gone....I GOT ALL OF HAUKKE TO MYSELF!!!! HOOOOOOOOME ALOOOOOOOOONE!!!!
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by odie View Post
    anytime i want to explore, i just wait til we've cleared it and everyone leaves. i like to stand around like i'm waiting for loot...or afk....then when they are gone....I GOT ALL OF HAUKKE TO MYSELF!!!! HOOOOOOOOME ALOOOOOOOOONE!!!!
    How does that work out for you did you experience anything new in that or see something that you didn't the first time?
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackcanary View Post
    <snip> ...so it is fare but it would be at ur own risk to go in and explore at a low level lol.

    Which would make it fun see how far you can go with out dieing lol.
    I think that if this were to be implemented, there would need to be some kind of balancing, Level Sync for example. You say go in and explore at a low level, sure, sounds like a challenge, and fun!
    However there would need to be some restrictions to stop some level 50s taking low level parties through and power levelling them, like they could in pre-ARR.

    I think having no minimum level, but definitely a level sync is necessary to prevent abuse.

    I'm very enthusiastic about something like this actually happening, Yoshi-P, make it so!
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    This would make the open world much more engaging.
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    about tam-tara size of the p1-p2, it did become smaller because people was feeling it was too big and some people even get lost into it. you have almost 2 time the number of pack you have now.



    that said, the open world content (the one that everybody can enter without instance) can lead to many trouble, like if the place is over-populate by the player, leading to some area totally barren. it happend in game with open world content, let's take an example look the tribes daily area, around the reset, this area have more player than monster in the area. (almost a ratio of 3-4 player for 1 monster) it's absurd, it loose all credibility and challenge.
    let's say they add an area that ask people to group for do it. people will farm it, until something better come out and what will happend? the place will be empty of player and find people for do it will be extremely hard.

    the advantage of the instance is, if no one use it, the instance server don't generate the area, in the open world this area is always generate and it take space on it.
    don't get me wrong, i want more stuff related to the world, but actually open world content have a lot of flaws. mostly because of the number of people per server. if they add a new high level area, they need to make it bigger enough for contain all player...
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    Thats a good idea.

    I've always wanted to explore wanderers palace in full. Will you still get access to loot that was skipped? Will the monsters disappear after beating the boss?
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reborn View Post
    I think that if this were to be implemented, there would need to be some kind of balancing, Level Sync for example. You say go in and explore at a low level, sure, sounds like a challenge, and fun!
    However there would need to be some restrictions to stop some level 50s taking low level parties through and power levelling them, like they could in pre-ARR.

    I think having no minimum level, but definitely a level sync is necessary to prevent abuse.

    I'm very enthusiastic about something like this actually happening, Yoshi-P, make it so!
    I fully agree with what you stated its not about people trying make a profit ether you like where you see people shouting 100k and you are sure to beat Titan HM.
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    snip
    don't get me wrong, i want more stuff related to the world, but actually open world content have a lot of flaws. mostly because of the number of people per server. if they add a new high level area, they need to make it bigger enough for contain all player...
    Agree with everything you said they couldn't be small then I'm guessing the new area that are unlocked would have to be a bit bigger than the area's you already go through now is that correct or am i wrong stating that. having different floors in new areas to explore in dungeons could fix this maybe.

    I'm i going in the right direction here with my train of thought or am i of a bit Silentwindfr?
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    Thats a good idea.

    I've always wanted to explore wanderers palace in full. Will you still get access to loot that was skipped? Will the monsters disappear after beating the boss?
    I think that the idea would be, you've done the quest and cleared the dungeon of the boss, and now you can go in and explore it. So think about going in as a gatherer to collect rare mats while avoiding the native enemies. Or as a group of adventurers, perhaps there could be rare chests. Maybe even a FATE boss in there... Who knows?
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