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    Zendav's Avatar
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    Zendav Deimos
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    Lamia
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    I'm wondering if thief will be a starting class that branches off into the ninja and swordmaster disciples. It would be interesting to see the swordmaster resemble the bravely default job, and take on a counter attack, tank role.
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    Alkimi Asura
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    It looks like they're being more careful with adding new jobs, which is a good thing. XI had a habit of just throwing in 3 new jobs at a time, with no semblance of balance anywhere. But then again the jobs in that game were never balanced properly.
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    Ryuzu Madara
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    Behemoth
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    Archer Lv 50
    we should start a pation
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    Last edited by kenku; 02-27-2014 at 08:37 AM.

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    Nadja Zielle
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    New content before new jobs. All we have now is coil with a lockout and CT which, while fun at first, has been nothing but a bane since, esp with the horrid drop rate and loot system (just capped tomes on week 4 without seeing mage pants once). For those of us with all 50s that leaves treasure hunts, beastman quests and...um...hmmm, primal farming? No I got all my drops on those weeks ago...hmmm. Yep nothing til next week.

    I really don't need another job I cannot gear due to bad loot systems and lock outs. Nor do I want to watch tv while I wait on df to put me in a dungeon so I can lvl up that lets ppl leave or just stand there til they are booted with no penalty so I can sit in df even more. Sure there are fates but I wont touch them since I like to actually know how to play my job when I get to endgame.

    Let them bring on the content before we start QQ about only having 8 jobs
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    Datura Megido
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    Marauder Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia View Post
    New content before new jobs.
    I really don't need another job I cannot gear due to bad loot systems and lock outs. Nor do I want to watch tv while I wait on df to put me in a dungeon so I can lvl up that lets ppl leave or just stand there til they are booted with no penalty so I can sit in df even more. Sure there are fates but I wont touch them since I like to actually know how to play my job when I get to endgame.

    Let them bring on the content before we start QQ about only having 8 jobs
    I totally agree but wouldn't a new class be something...new? That gets you to play the game during off days?
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    Zaknafein Do'urden
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    I think that there are few things people may want to consider on this note.

    1) This is the game's second change. In the MMO market how may games get a second chance at life? Because of this people, not just the people playing the game, will be looking more closely at the game. People will be expecting SE to have learned from their mistakes and be much more prepared this time around. It is also seemingly logical that players would likely see things that were unreleased for the first version of the game to make their way into the game sooner than later.

    2) Long term. If you are having second thoughts about leveling another class or doing some of the content now, is that going to get worse or better? If the content patches that are coming out every couple of months or so only have a new primal, a new dungeon, a couple of hard modes, is that something that will keep you playing?
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    Hennessy Cognac
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    Malboro
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I rather have slowly released content that is properly tested and balanced, then rushed content thats poor quality and full of bugs. With that being said, I do hope to see at least 1 new tank/healing class to be introduced.
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    Zavier Mhigo
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    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Reiryuu View Post
    I really don\\\\'t know what makes people think that Dragon Knight and Dragoon are different. They are the *same* job that has been translated differently. The Japanese for Dragoon is 竜騎士 which literally translates to Dragon Knight.

    Back-up source: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Dragoon_%28Job%29
    Lol I actually speak French so I know they aren't different. But this a fantasy game. Dragoons were a military unit... they didn't fight dragons irl nor did they have dragons. So from a fantasy perspective I think a dragoon= had a lance and a dragon knight is more like a Chevalier, the name means horse rider or horseman, by the way, didnt have a wiki link for you since thats how one proves intelligence now a days, I guess. Dragon knight being - has a wyvern. Already a dragoon in this game isn't what a dragoon is in irl so who cares, its the other ishgard dragoons that are more "mounted cavalry" based on actual history.

    I'm just saying from FF perspective, and not a real life one, its actually easy to make Dragoon and Dragon Knight two completely different things. With dragon knight actually meaning "hey i fight with dragons", since dragoon does not mean "I KILL DRAGONS irl" and they made it into that in FF, why would we even be talking about logical stuff.
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    Last edited by zaviermhigo; 02-28-2014 at 07:37 AM. Reason: written on cell phone, you know how it is, gotta clean it up on the comp

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    Imbri Undinare
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    Kujata
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by zaviermhigo View Post
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    I am aware of what dragoons are irl history, but the dragon head symbol for dragoon in the FFXIV game and the dragoon from previous Final Fantasy games kind of tell the tale of their lore in the Final Fantasy universe, no? In fact, many fantasy-based games have related the Dragoon with dragons. Having a "Dragon Knight" in FFXIV just isn't possible because, well, that is what the Dragoon is. Also, it's not so much that they kill dragons that makes them dragoons, but the fact that their spirit has bonded with that of a dragon which grants them their powers.


    And from a FF standpoint: Why does the lancer need to have 2 jobs based on dragons anyway? Why can't lancer have Chocobo Knight for a second tank-based job? http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Chocobo_Knight

    Back on topic, however, it appears that in an interview with Dengeki, Yoshi P has implied or at the very least hinted that new jobs may not be coming until an expansion. At PAX, he said new jobs and level cap increases would come in major updates, however, in this interview he implies that when new jobs come out, level caps will increase, and level caps will increase with expansions.
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    BrandoH's Avatar
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    Ketsu Wotaberu
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Nothing has even been hinted at for a new Job sooner than the Expansion anyway. 2.3 is already spoken for with more Primal and CT stuff, so don't get your hopes up there. Any further Jobs/Classes are going to be at LEAST 2.4 territory, likely beyond.
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