There's nothing interesting happening. We have nothing to discuss.

[omniwaink]

A lot of you guys were missing my point. It has nothing to do with this game being Hardcore vs Casual. It's about the lack of anything interesting to do (or discuss). CT drops gear no one cares about. Primals are just altered mechanics of fights we've already done ad neaseum. Coil lockout is what it is. PVP gear is recycled/recolored lvl 30 gear. The daily quest lines are boring and uninspired.

I mean, what is there even to discuss about this game that hasn't already been said a billion times? This live letter gave us nothing new to talk about. Hell, there are new Coil turns in 2.2 and they revealed more info about the OLD Coil turns.

SE is simply just dropping the ball on trickling out info to maintain hype for the game. We never get to see patch notes, or test stuff on the PTR or anything. And these live letters are way too far apart.

[Grizzlebeard]

In all honesty the only reason I'm hanging on is to see what this game looks like on the PS4. So, 22nd of this month or around that time I'll be in a better position to make a decision but as it stands now, if that wasn't there as something to pique my curiousity, I'd have cancelled my sub and walked away. The current game is everything I hate about games like WoW with nothing of the charm or long-term challenge of FFXI.

Oh, and regular, vertical gear resets can go die in a fire.

[Mihael_Longclaw]

This is wrong.

People who play all day everyday consume everything from every game they play in a matter of weeks if not days. There is no way to satisfy this appetite. There are almost no contemporary games designed with a customer in mind who is always plugged in. There are a few, but they are the minority. And likewise, so is that particular demographic.

ARR is designed for fans of ff who play 3-4 hours every 1-2 days. It is working as intended. I prefer quality over quanity and so do most semi-hardcore to casual gamers.

But A Realm Reborn is basically quantity over quality...

- Endless filler/fetch quests
- No variety in content except bland dungeons
- RESKINS EVERYWHERE!
- PvP for the hell of it, unbalanced and broken
- Every boss being a variation of dodge the AoE
- Normal, Hard, Extreme versions of Primals... and soon to be dungeons... nuff said
- Dailies, same thing every day

I'd actually still be subbing if they could provide a variety of quality content, instead of a vast array of monotonous content.
The hardcore aren't enjoying, the semi-hardcore aren't enjoying it, neither are the casuals.

Obviously not everyone, but there's a large amount of people in game just playing the game for friends and nothing else.

[Soulburn32]

[Doo]

stuff

You know how they say that all you do in FFXI is fight crabs? Well FFXIV feels worst to me since all mobs basically have the same attack type. Frontal cone aoe and circle aoe. You don't even have to think when you see a new mob because you know it's going to do the same thing as every other mob.

[Soulburn32]

I will say XI had a much more indepth mob system than some of you seem to remember.

Each mob actually had a weakness, either an elemental one or a physical damage type. Crabs as the above poster mentioned were weak to caster dps and strong against all physical damage.

Some targets were strong to most magic but weak to piercing type weapons, aka DRG lances, RNG arrows ext.

There is probably some of that goin on in XIV but as no one farms mobs anymore it doesn't matter. The amount of trash in CT coil doesn't matter if they have a weakness you can kill them easily with any aoe's.

They basically changed from a every mob is a sub boss, never fight more than 1, to a everyone other than bosses is trash and should be killed with aoe's.

[Imapooonu]

A lot of you guys were missing my point. It has nothing to do with this game being Hardcore vs Casual.

True. That's fair.

I mean, what is there even to discuss about this game that hasn't already been said a billion times?

Ok, but let’s be honest, you’ve already made up your mind. You’re not fishing for “what exactly effects the dodge mechanic?” “what is the point of diminishing returns for critical rate?” “are tanks specs “BiS” for a healer in pvp?”

Some of these threads probably already exist, but they are buried constantly by threads like “there’s nothing to talk about”. The forum has nothing to blame but itself. Besides, if your “BiS” questions have already been answered, there’s always the suggestion section that isn’t being used properly as a whole as well. For instance, where’s the “potions need their cool downs adjusted” thread discussed in a civil manner with 500+ posts…oh that’s right…it’s buried.

But A Realm Reborn is basically quantity over quality...

Again this is subjective, not only from your point of view, but mine as well. However, if ARR was not a quality game to begin with, most wouldn’t have leveled to 50 before deciding to declare there’s nothing to do. Something about the game has caused people to level to 50, get a bunch of minions and mounts, save things for vanity, etc.

It’s really hard to say ARR is not a beautiful game (excluding some…”interesting” armor designs lol) and that it’s not extremely fun to play for the first 200 or so hours. After that it becomes a consumption issue and gaming preference. For instance, half of the people saying there’s nothing to do are raiders. They have one class at fifty. There is nothing left that THEY want to do, it doesn’t mean there’s nothing left to do. And it doesn’t mean some of us don’t mind the filler quests and crafting.

Long of the short, if you didn’t have a great initial experience, you probably wouldn’t be here a few months and several hundred hours later complaining about it. Not you per say, just people in general.

[AyaneKiwara]

Well, when you either:

a) Pay to power level your character...

or

b) Are a legacy player...

or

c) Only raid...

...you are going to be bored.

I dont know man, I'm a legacy player and Im not bored... ^_^

[TeaTimeBear]

Anyone catch the OP saying it's the same topics over an over and then makes a common topic..? :|

[Mihael_Longclaw]

Hopefully in a few years FFXIV will be a better game, but it seems like it'll just become another WoW.

Thankfully Dark Souls 2 should keep me busy for the next few years