Different party sizes in the future

[Zumi]

I see a lot of complaints about dps having to wait 60-90+ min for a dungeon or ct while tanks and healers get near instant queues. This is due to the disproportionate people who play dps vs tank/healer One possible solution is in a future expansion SE changes the party sizes.

Currently a light party 1 tank 1 healer 2 dps. That is 1 tank/healer for every 2 dps
Full party is 2 tank 2 healer 4 dps. Still keeps the same ration of 1 tank/healer per 2 dps.

One solution would be to change light to 5 and full party to 10
Light 1 tank 1 healer 3 dps
Full 2 tank 2 healer 6 dps

This would reduce the queue times some for dps by allowing more dps per tank and healer.

[Lyrinn]

healers get near instant queues

I agree with the DPS ratio needing to be upped, but are you kidding me?





Root solution to the problem is to find a way to get more people to play tanks. That is all.

[Kiyouma]

Root solution to the problem is to find a way to get more people to play tanks. That is all.

No, please don't. I like my insta-ques as a tank

[Lyrinn]

No, please don't. I like my insta-ques as a tank

In an ideal world where the population really was 1:1:2, everyone would be getting near insta-queues. You'll still have no wait time if you're the least played class but there's too much shortage on tanks, which is the cause of 1h+ queues.

[Hycinthus]

I prefer a 6-man party like in FFXI. I don't really like 4, it's a bit too small.

[Roth_Trailfinder]

I prefer a 6-man party like in FFXI. I don't really like 4, it's a bit too small.

I'm used to Everquest's 6 man groups, with a raid system that allows for 12 groups (though instanced raids cut that down to 9 groups very quickly, and have topped out at 9 groups ever since).

[Espon]

Root solution to the problem is to find a way to get more people to play tanks. That is all.

If people don't want to tank then they're not going to play as a tank. A lot of people don't like dealing with the added responsibility or they want to be the one that does the killing. It happens in every MMO, no matter how much they try to entice people to play them.

[Lyrinn]

If people don't want to tank then they're not going to play as a tank. A lot of people don't like dealing with the added responsibility or they want to be the one that does the killing. It happens in every MMO, no matter how much they try to entice people to play them.

I know plenty of people who refuse to tank because it's boring, myself included. They typically play MNK, DRG, or BLM instead because it's more "fun" being stance/combo oriented. There are even some WARs I know who play WAR because they feel like it's a tanky-DPS class.

Add some depth to current tanks or release new ones. Add dungeons or events where tanks have to do something (fun) - that doesn't involve tank swapping - for the group to progress. There are a number of ways to get those people who are on the fence to go over. It won't dramatically increase the number of tanks but at this point, any increase is welcome.

[theflo84]

I agree with the DPS ratio needing to be upped, but are you kidding me?





Root solution to the problem is to find a way to get more people to play tanks. That is all.

I think what your pictures show is differnet and another Problem. At least the First One.
When every class is greyed out then the Server has no Space left because
there are allready to many People questing maybe.

More Tanks wouldnt solve your Problem. Only more Servers would help here i think.

[Roth_Trailfinder]

I think what your pictures show is differnet and another Problem. At least the First One.
When every class is greyed out then the Server has no Space left because
there are allready to many People questing maybe.

More Tanks wouldnt solve your Problem. Only more Servers would help here i think.

Actually, the first one shows that this WHM was waiting that long for an instance. The DF puts everyone in a line, based on their role. Then it fills a party - one party at a time. After the one party is filled, then it looks at the next, and so on.

Being 0/6, 1/6, 0/12 for that long shows that that WHM is still in line for a party, and that the party (or parties) in front of him have yet to finish filling.

Odds are though, it was a tank the currently forming party was waiting for.