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    Quote Originally Posted by Malamasala View Post
    I find it terrifying that people are 10 years older now, and yet do not see themselves needing to spend the next 10 years on anything but a grindfest MMO.

    Throwing away your youth is fine, but you are starting to plan to throw away your whole life.
    The irony of this post is these kind of MMORPGs are gear grind fests grinding the same dungeons numerous times - you don't find that terrifying either? or that MMOs of this type usually fail within their first year?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    The irony of this post is these kind of MMORPGs are gear grind fests grinding the same dungeons numerous times - you don't find that terrifying either? or that MMOs of this type usually fail within their first year?
    It's not terrifying when the company makes old content more accessible. You know, like current FFXI or FFXIV.

    It is only terrifying when people want grindy things that remain grindy. That is a recipe for a dead MMO, because it won't attract new players. At least games like FFXIV will constantly get new players to replace those who leave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malamasala View Post
    It's not terrifying when the company makes old content more accessible. You know, like current FFXI or FFXIV.

    It is only terrifying when people want grindy things that remain grindy. That is a recipe for a dead MMO, because it won't attract new players. At least games like FFXIV will constantly get new players to replace those who leave.
    this game wont last the 11 years ffxi has
    once the next new "shiny" wow clone gets released this game will die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malamasala View Post
    It's not terrifying when the company makes old content more accessible. You know, like current FFXI or FFXIV.

    It is only terrifying when people want grindy things that remain grindy. That is a recipe for a dead MMO, because it won't attract new players. At least games like FFXIV will constantly get new players to replace those who leave.
    The new players will dry up. new mmos will come out. If you think a mmo will continue to get new subs at the rate of the first year you are nuts. Hell even XIV we sold what 1.5million boxes... the subs are not even close to that currently. The top end is bleeding subs. Most people quitting all say the same thing. Game was great until you hit the end then it was boring. So you are losing the top... what happens when the fresh blood dries up that was replacing them. THAT IS THE RECIPE FOR A DEAD MMO. Holding subs > getting new subs because getting new subs becomes extremely difficult as time passes in a mmo.

    Better question is how long will this game last with very few new subs? XI lasted nearly 7 years with the slowest decline in mmo history because it held onto over 95% of its subs every year. XIV if the new player subs dried up would be a ghost town in about 1-2yrs.

    Longevity is one thing XIV lacks. The content is not designed for it. It is short lived fun. Easily completely and thrown aside. This will send XIV into an early grave. XIV's endgame will always be shallow compared to long living mmos unless the devs drastically change development plans, which they seem to have no desire to do.
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    I would be interested if FFXI were the same game I played years ago but sadly it isn't anymore. I went back once I think after the treasures expansion not sure if it was the most current, anyways I figured I would try to play Thief my favorite class back when I originally quit the game only to find out parties had changed. No one was doing skillchains and magic bursting like they used too, which kind of made Thief lackluster to me since they only truly shined in parties. This was a huge change which kind of ruined leveling for me, I mean what everyone now just spams weaponskills when they have enough TP? Seriously a skillchain + magic burst was too much work for people?

    Also I hear the abysea expansion crapped on the players anyways, making the upgraded relic weapons and such that took years to acquire and unlock basically super easy to get. I never thought they would do something like raise the level cap and treat there own player base that way after they supported the game for all those years. It seems I was wrong. No I won't be going back to FFXI because it just isn't the same game and I likely won't come back to FFXIV because I don't like the direction of the game which shows no signs of changing for the better.
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    I tried to go back. It's a game without a soul now.
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    If they released it on PSN I might give it another try. But as I don't have a system the game can run on, it's unlikely I'll ever play again.
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    If anyone is interested, I am on Asura - but might server change depending on the circumstances. Bahamut looks like the most active server now. I am not really concerned about the population of the game that much, it would just be really cool to get a small linkshell together who is interested in rekindling old experiences. I will continue to play XIV, but slowly... at least until they make some adjustments and/or new content.

    Anyways - to those who are interested - i'm on Asura, my character is Morcheeba. Looking forward to trying out the Trust system and getting all the gear/fighting NMs I never got to fight! I don't mind if it's a time sink because its a very comfortable, fun time sink for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tethra View Post
    If anyone is interested, I am on Asura - but might server change depending on the circumstances. Bahamut looks like the most active server now. I am not really concerned about the population of the game that much, it would just be really cool to get a small linkshell together who is interested in rekindling old experiences. I will continue to play XIV, but slowly... at least until they make some adjustments and/or new content.

    Anyways - to those who are interested - i'm on Asura, my character is Morcheeba. Looking forward to trying out the Trust system and getting all the gear/fighting NMs I never got to fight! I don't mind if it's a time sink because its a very comfortable, fun time sink for me
    I'll reroll my lowbie on Asura in a bit. Send whatever gil I made on it to my higher level taru. Almost too bad a player in the linkshell i'm in helped me farm my sub job items lol but oh well it is what it is. Be nice to start on a new server.
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    I really do miss XI but in it's current state I'd never go back, it's not the game I fell in love with at all. If they did the roll back like everyones saying I really think they could make a nice bit of extra money on the side of XIV instead of just watching XI die, but then they might be actively trying to kill off XI. It's using resources that cost them money and hasn't got the market they had 10 years ago so it's somewhat wasted resources. From a business perspective it's draining a lot just to keep it running at all.

    I think a lot of the problem is that SE has sold their soul for money, something most companies or really anything with a high status seems to be doing these days.
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