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  1. #41
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    LilyStorm's Avatar
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    Lily Storm
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Die in Hydra?

    SURE LEMME MAKE YOU DEAD OUTSIDE, THAT MAKES SENSE. Stupid devs, cmon.
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  2. #42
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    Rin Upara
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 56
    Quote Originally Posted by Pence View Post
    Monk can claim and farm fine without a ranged ability. Either you're doing it wrong, love homogenization, or believe this is LGBTI discrimination.
    "It is because I say so" wonderful argument.
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  3. #43
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    Bravo Whiskey
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    Ravana
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vilzen View Post
    All that snide but no substance. I guess I was wrong in expecting there to be. Nice try though.
    You expected a serious response while pointing out that casters have ranged abilities?
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  4. #44
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    Rin Upara
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pence View Post
    You expected a serious response while pointing out that casters have ranged abilities?
    The point was all classes but pugilist have instant ranged abilities without a cd. I'll repeat the important part. Instant. No cd. Whm doesn't need aero to perform its role. It also doesn't need it to solo. Scathe is mostly useless unless you're running for long periods. Piercing talons is pretty useless but lnc has it. I won't touch on mrd anc or gld because theirs actually serve a purpose. I guess this is all to deep and I have to explain it.
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  5. #45
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    Bravo Whiskey
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    Ravana
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilzen View Post
    The point was all classes but pugilist have instant ranged abilities without a cd. I'll repeat the important part. Instant. No cd. Whm doesn't need aero to perform its role. It also doesn't need it to solo. Scathe is mostly useless unless you're running for long periods. Piercing talons is pretty useless but lnc has it. I won't touch on mrd anc or gld because theirs actually serve a purpose. I guess this is all to deep and I have to explain it.
    Except that people do use those abilities.

    You want a ranged attack because other classes have it? Cross-class provoke and virus. Not all jobs should have access to everything. That's bland and boring.
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  6. #46
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    Orphaelle Demorneciel
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    and maybe:
    Please, refresh and display all buff and debuff on focus target
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  7. #47
    Player
    Vilzen's Avatar
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    Rin Upara
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pence View Post
    Except that people do use those abilities.

    You want a ranged attack because other classes have it? Cross-class provoke and virus. Not all jobs should have access to everything. That's bland and boring.
    The fact they are used is moot to the argument I was making. Also provoke and virus have a cd so are not viable to the point. You're correct about the bland and boring IF all classes used the abilities in their rotations. There is nothing game altering about giving pug thier version of piercing talon.
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  8. #48
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    Florence Leduc
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by WellGramarye View Post
    It's not. It works as intended. The same thing happens with Spineshatter Dive and any other movement ability in the game when movement isn't possible.
    no is clearly a bug exploit, you can say it's like spineshatter and all, your action must make you move. if you force the game to hit the target while not moving... you are bypassing the role of the action, exploiting a bug into the skill. since, normally you must be close of the enemy for touch it (it's a shoulder attack after all)...exept if you can...throw your shoulder (yerks!)

    about spineshatter, the only time where it did happend, was in demon wall, where it was making you avoid the bump... but it's still bugging one time on three.
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  9. #49
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    Lumei Asuran
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    Midgardsormr
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    no is clearly a bug exploit, you can say it's like spineshatter and all, your action must make you move. if you force the game to hit the target while not moving... you are bypassing the role of the action, exploiting a bug into the skill. since, normally you must be close of the enemy for touch it (it's a shoulder attack after all)...exept if you can...throw your shoulder (yerks!)

    about spineshatter, the only time where it did happend, was in demon wall, where it was making you avoid the bump... but it's still bugging one time on three.
    Clearly its a bug when you are up against a wall, do Elusive Jump and get the emnity down and break bind/heavy right? Because you totally didn't move but got the same effect.


    Pssst. Not a bug. Its how the game engine works. Abilities that have ADDED EFFECT MOVEMENT still do their other effects in the case that you can't move.
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  10. #50
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    Florence Leduc
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    wait, you are comparing an action that jump back against a wall with an action done behind a wall for avoid to move and hit a target at range? seriously?
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