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  1. #41
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    T0rin's Avatar
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    Torin Escarpa
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Asdamine View Post
    Funny, DoT is the only thing summoner use (other than the pet). Give me another reason why summoner is the least played job? None.
    Because people suck at the game and have a hard time playing a class that isn't a complete faceroll.
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  2. #42
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    Lea Sahaquiel
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    Coeurl
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by T0rin View Post
    Because people suck at the game and have a hard time playing a class that isn't a complete faceroll.
    Ehm... good reason.

    lol. +1
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  3. #43
    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by T0rin View Post
    Because people suck at the game and have a hard time playing a class that isn't a complete faceroll.
    I still see people fail at PLD though, so that can't be right...
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  4. #44
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    I still see people fail at PLD though, so that can't be right...
    Further proof that it's right, actually.
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  5. #45
    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by T0rin View Post
    Further proof that it's right, actually.
    Pressing only 1-2-3 is hard?
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  6. #46
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    Pressing only 1-2-3 is hard?
    No, but if people fail at that, it is further proof for why SMN is the least played job.

    2-3-4-1-Alt+1-Ctrl+3-Ctrl+4-Ctrl+1-Ctrl+1-1-Alt+1-Ctrl+1-Ctrl+1-4-3-Ctrl+1-2-Alt+1-1+Alt+2 ... ah forget it.
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  7. #47
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    Aphrini Vanadette
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    Exodus
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    LOL us Summoners have nothing to prove to any of you, look we don't need you if you can't see how amazing we are at what we do, good. You are unworthy of the horn and our DPS speaks for itself and frankly our job has too many idiots "Pressing 1-2-3" as it was so eloquently put. Which job is the best SMN don't agree? Good, need me to convince you? lol, NO...

    *edit I threw in a ' wtf lol error fixed.
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  8. #48
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    Lunairetic Emx
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Asdamine View Post
    Funny, DoT is the only thing summoner use (other than the pet). Give me another reason why summoner is the least played job? None.
    1. Pets. Many players actually don't like dealing with pets and will specifically avoid pet classes.

    2. They share the same role space as BLMs. BLMs were purportedly OP in FF11/14 vanilla. That bias carried over.

    3. Parsers sucked at DoTs early on.

    4. Idiots still ignore the pet for parses.

    5. In addition to #1, the pet UI is exceptionally "meh" in FF14, in addition to the macro side.

    6. Variable timing of DoTs and other special effects. It's difficult for players with IQ<50 to deal with the concept of extending DoTs via contagion and Bane'ing them to apply to multiple targets.

    7. Conceptually BLMs have a longer following in the FF14 history.

    8. The SMN summons are not epic. Instant downer for any FF-vet who sees the egis.

    9. Hybrid healer. Some people are piss-scared of playing a base ACN class that has heals because they think people will make them heal.



    There's quite a few reasons that mostly fall into the categories of "BLMz r k3wl" and "lol pet class lol" that skew the population away from Summoners.

    It's no surprise the job is underpopulated. At all.

    The DoT-based nature of the class is a legitimate 10th reason people may avoid the class. It's far and away not the only reason someone would avoid playing a SMN, however.
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  9. #49
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    Lea Sahaquiel
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    snip
    So, when you first look at the description of the summoner class, and I mean really first time touching anything related to FF14 or at character creation, the first thing (or things) you see with your eyes are "parsers"; "black mage"; "UI"; "FF-vet" and "role sharing"...?

    Ehm... Ok, sure... lol...
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  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    8. The SMN summons are not epic. Instant downer for any FF-vet who sees the egis.
    This is always the most curious complaint people have. Never understood it. For most non-XI FF games, summons are those things that you summon once as soon as you get it and go, "Wow that 2-minute scene intro of the big thing falling out of the sky and turning the world on fire was cool. But now that that is over with, I'll never be doing that again but that took too long and the outcome was underwhelming." Especially for those who remember when summoning only elicited cursing because those 2minute scenes weren't skippable.
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