Anti-Troll system

[Rentahamster]

I don't ignore anyone.

I <3 all of you.

[Amsai]

Hmm.... I usually have complaints about certain features of the game it self. This marks the first time that I have a problem with changes to the forums. I am honestly suprised more people don't have a problem with this??

I am seriously against this, and here is why: I think it could cater to a certain aspect of elitism, and it attempts to destroy anonymity. Personally I don't have a problem showing everyone what classes I have at what level, but I can see how some people could use it (and have done so when people have it in their sigs) as grounds to call their opinion on a topic into question. I do, however, have a problem with SE trying to take away my anonymity. I have in the past made some negative comments about this game, and will do so in the future. I have voiced complaints, and will probably continue to do so. So I appreciate the anonymity, because what I do on the forums, and what I do in the game are completely unrelated.

I am a friendly and helful player in general, particularly to my LS and friends. I do not dwell on or get into lengthy debates/arguments with fellow players in game about whats wrong with FFXIV and would never do so. What I choose to do instead is abstain from the game for now. However, even when I played the game, I tried to make the best of it and will do so again when Patch 1.18 comes. This game lacks a fair amount of community and people to have a community with as it is, so I don't need my opinion on the forums to negatively impact the way people interact with me in game.

I don't consider myself a troll any more than the other people in these forums that have opposite views on things. We have different opinions, and while sometimes some of the things people say are good in this game make me go a bit crazy, I do try to refrain from being an absolute a%%hole. I even try to look at this issue a bit more objectively to search for compromise. The point is that there is no right or wrong opinion, there are only differences in opinion (not fact), and everyone should be entitled to his/her own voice as was intended by the creation of these forums.

So yea......... this is a really bad idea, and has only encouraged me to create a second character (oh the fun I will have with the char names) specifically to be used on these forums. Someone in an earlier post suggested that this would weed out trolls (which I read as weeding out people of a differing opinion). I am here to tell you, even if they start charging, I will pay for that extra character for the life of the game or until I finally see no hope for it (is it secretly a way to get people to buy another character for when they start charging? o.0). Because believe it or not, I do want this game to succede and have great hope in its potential, IF SE can get there act together (totally subjective to my ideals).

Now its time to put some serious thought into a name for my "fake" character.

[KaiKatzchen]

Someone in an earlier post suggested that this would weed out trolls (which I read as weeding out people of a differing opinion).

I don't think they meant that... at the moment people don't have to have an active account to post on the forums. People need only sign up for an account and they can talk on the forums, so I took the 'trolls' comment as getting rid of the people on these forums that don't own the game, don't play the game and some people that have multi-accounts that they use to post on when one gets banned. It has been an issue, and I think this is SE's way of making sure that people who play or have an account can be heard without those other instances arising.

I don't have an issue with it due to the fact that I am who I am. On here, in the game, in real life... I say what I need to say and it's as simple as that. If they don't like what I have to say or hate me because they don't agree with my opinion, that can't be helped. If that changes how they feel about me in game, and can hold me to such a standard despite... well it's probably someone who I don't want to help or be involved with anyway. If they want someone who is nice, kinda, helpful, willing to be a friend and can appreciate me for who I am, despite the fact that they might not agree with my opinion on here, then that is a person I want to be friends with.

[Vahzl]

Any attempt to destroy internet anonymity has my thumbs up to be honest. It has been commonplace for too long now that forum trolls, board bashers, and every other variation of an e-thug get to hide behind their avatar.

The internet isn't what it was 15 years ago (yeah bet that made you feel old didn't it? ), if it was down to me, anyone connecting to the internet would have their name and location live on screen all the time, you would have no option to change your avatar, and you would be locked out of anything that would allow you to hide yourself in any way.

My system would require the world to be run by some kind of cyber government, with a representative stationed outside every house and apartment, confirming that they are not trying to hide themselves from the world.

I am also a supporter of the device we have been trying to invent that allows you to perform a physical punch in the face through the internet. We are still working on the part of the device that allows your screen to magically turn into a hand, form a fist and then knock your teeth out. So far we have only managed to make it display this:

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ll...i6tmo1_400.gif

The research continues...

[KaiKatzchen]

Any attempt to destroy internet anonymity has my thumbs up to be honest. It has been commonplace for too long now that forum trolls, board bashers, and every other variation of an e-thug get to hide behind their avatar.

The internet isn't what it was 15 years ago (yeah bet that made you feel old didn't it? ), if it was down to me, anyone connecting to the internet would have their name and location live on screen all the time, you would have no option to change your avatar, and you would be locked out of anything that would allow you to hide yourself in any way.

My system would require the world to be run by some kind of cyber government, with a representative stationed outside every house and apartment, confirming that they are not trying to hide themselves from the world.

I am also a supporter of the device we have been trying to invent that allows you to perform a physical punch in the face through the internet. We are still working on the part of the device that allows your screen to magically turn into a hand, form a fist and then knock your teeth out. So far we have only managed to make it display this:

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ll...i6tmo1_400.gif

The research continues...

+1!!!! Sorry that made me laugh... even though it's sad and true!

A lot of people take for granted the simple fact that people can be whoever they want to be online. Some people use this as a way to have a almost split personality of 'I'm going to act like a total *** on this forum because no one knows who I am, they can't connect me to anything else or my character etc' but then in rl or the game sometimes they are really nice... or they are (unfortunately) that way in RL as well.

I don't see why people are so afraid to show their character... I mean it's still not their RL information so people still don't know who they are. The only people who really have anything to fear by this is if they are in fact rude and nasty all the time on the forums... and well, that's their issue and even that may not matter.

[_C-a-e-r-i-t-h_]

I don't have an issue with it due to the fact that I am who I am. On here, in the game, in real life...

You're a catgirl in real life?

Any attempt to destroy internet anonymity has my thumbs up to be honest. It has been commonplace for too long now that forum trolls, board bashers, and every other variation of an e-thug get to hide behind their avatar.

While I do agree with John Gabriel's Greater Internet F(Online Disinhibition)wad Theory and think removing anonymity would cut down on trolls, I disagree for reasons I consider slightly more important.

The internet isn't what it was 15 years ago (yeah bet that made you feel old didn't it? ), if it was down to me, anyone connecting to the internet would have their name and location live on screen all the time, you would have no option to change your avatar, and you would be locked out of anything that would allow you to hide yourself in any way.

My system would require the world to be run by some kind of cyber government, with a representative stationed outside every house and apartment, confirming that they are not trying to hide themselves from the world.

Again, this worries me.

I am also a supporter of the device we have been trying to invent that allows you to perform a physical punch in the face through the internet. We are still working on the part of the device that allows your screen to magically turn into a hand, form a fist and then knock your teeth out. So far we have only managed to make it display this:

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ll...i6tmo1_400.gif

The research continues...

Or perhaps vandalizing their house and car, killing their cat, and making continued death threats against them?

I'm not sure where you're from, how old you are, or what your sense of history is.

I'm assuming you've never lived in a police state.

Anonymity is important. I'm sick of trolls too and I think Anonymous has overstepped its bounds, but if that's the only problem you see with the world then you're living in an ivory tower.

Take away anonymity and you take away the ability for people to disagree with you. If your only way to cope with people who disagree with you is to punch them in the face or set up secret police to monitor everyone in their homes, there are words for that....

Good thing I can just link a mule to the forums.

[KaiKatzchen]

You're a catgirl in real life?

Me~ow! ~_^

LOL!

Actually that made me laugh, and no.

What I was implying was the fact that my personality and opinions are the same here, and I wouldn't say anything here that I wouldn't be afraid to say in RL in front of people. Therefore I don't have issues with people knowing my character name/world/ranks... lol which is obvious since I have it on my sig anyway.

[Vahzl]

Me~ow! ~_^

LOL!

Actually that made me laugh, and no.

What I was implying was the fact that my personality and opinions are the same here, and I wouldn't say anything here that I wouldn't be afraid to say in RL in front of people. Therefore I don't have issues with people knowing my character name/world/ranks... lol which is obvious since I have it on my sig anyway.

I am the same, I don't adopt a forum make believe persona. I am what I am, and anyone has an issue with it, either be prepared for verbal combat, or just go back to your hovel and shrivel up.

[Vahzl]

You're a catgirl in real life?



While I do agree with John Gabriel's Greater Internet F(Online Disinhibition)wad Theory and think removing anonymity would cut down on trolls, I disagree for reasons I consider slightly more important.



Again, this worries me.




Or perhaps vandalizing their house and car, killing their cat, and making continued death threats against them?

I'm not sure where you're from, how old you are, or what your sense of history is.

I'm assuming you've never lived in a police state.

Anonymity is important. I'm sick of trolls too and I think Anonymous has overstepped its bounds, but if that's the only problem you see with the world then you're living in an ivory tower.

Take away anonymity and you take away the ability for people to disagree with you. If your only way to cope with people who disagree with you is to punch them in the face or set up secret police to monitor everyone in their homes, there are words for that....

Good thing I can just link a mule to the forums.

If your smart mouth wants it cake and to eat it too, then it should be prepared to face the ramifications of it's actions. There are too many people in this world that take advantage of being anonymous in a bad way

(also while we are at this point, you are making a cracking attempt at twisting my words around tonight, you really must have it in for me)

and as such have created a very uncomfortable environment for all to be a part of. If you believe in your words, and are true to them, then you have no worry as you aren't trolling, you are being truthful.

If your only function on internet forums is to bring displeasure to others through the need to post constant annoyances, then you should be prepared to get a slap in the face, because you deserve one. Enough times have I told people to their faces, (and I am not a giant muscular jock, im an average build, medium height guy with a little podge in my belly) that if you continue in this way, you might find yourself looking up at the sky with blood running out your nose, as you are being rude, and abnoxious, and you are old enough to be responsible for your own actions.

I am not saying violence is the counter for all of the internets problems, but if your only function is to be a troll, as the quoted poster fits into the role of, then you should be ready to accept a truck being dropped on you, because you are not worth anything more.

And yes, I would love to live in a police state, might get some of the more annoying people out there (ala you) out of my way

[_C-a-e-r-i-t-h_]

Me~ow! ~_^

LOL!

Actually that made me laugh, and no.

What I was implying was the fact that my personality and opinions are the same here, and I wouldn't say anything here that I wouldn't be afraid to say in RL in front of people. Therefore I don't have issues with people knowing my character name/world/ranks... lol which is obvious since I have it on my sig anyway.

I am who I am, and my words are my words. I don't have a character-tracker signature because I haven't played in five months and don't see the point in advertising a character I am likely to delete because I intend to start over and get the full experience when the game is "complete." Besides, it's not like having multiple 50s makes my opinions any more valid.

If your smart mouth wants it cake and to eat it too, then it should be prepared to face the ramifications of it's actions. There are too many people in this world that take advantage of being anonymous in a bad way

(also while we are at this point, you are making a cracking attempt at twisting my words around tonight, you really must have it in for me)

and as such have created a very uncomfortable environment for all to be a part of. If you believe in your words, and are true to them, then you have no worry as you aren't trolling, you are being truthful.

If your only function on internet forums is to bring displeasure to others through the need to post constant annoyances, then you should be prepared to get a slap in the face, because you deserve one. Enough times have I told people to their faces, (and I am not a giant muscular jock, im an average build, medium height guy with a little podge in my belly) that if you continue in this way, you might find yourself looking up at the sky with blood running out your nose, as you are being rude, and abnoxious, and you are old enough to be responsible for your own actions.

I am not saying violence is the counter for all of the internets problems, but if your only function is to be a troll, as the quoted poster fits into the role of, then you should be ready to accept a truck being dropped on you, because you are not worth anything more.

And yes, I would love to live in a police state, might get some of the more annoying people out there (ala you) out of my way

I disagree with the ideas, not the person. You're the one who says he's gone through my entire posting history to find fault with the things I've said. I think the problem here is you, not me.

And so far, you're making my point for me. We disagree, you threaten violence.

And so, I'm putting you on my ignore list. [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XIV FORUM Guidelines.]