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    [Suggestion] Trial of the Magians

    First off, for those that don't know what TotM is, it's a system for upgrading weapons and gear in FFXI that makes you undertake trials/challenges to upgrade your stuff step-by-step.
    Think of it like the Relic Reborn quests, only with 20x content and magnitude.

    Here's a quick example of how it worked in FFXI.

    From what I can see at the moment, FFXIV's playerbase seems to be split into two major groups; hardcore endgamers who finish their weekly goals by Monday night, and casual gamers who complain that a lot of content is too hard and that there isn't enough casual content.

    Magian trials would honestly solve both groups' problems.
    Everyone who played FFXI took part of it, whether you hated or loved it, it gave you long term goals to set. The best part? Choices.

    If you're not part of an endgame FC that can take on the bigger stuff frequently, you can pick the easier trials that ask you to kill # mobs to proceed, and you can settle for 2nd or 3rd best weapon, for example.

    Those who don't want to take part in the tedious trials can simply not, they'll still have the other content that drops alternate gear.

    The good thing about this system (from SE's side) is that they seriously wouldn't even need to add much content for it to work, they have everything already set up. All they need to do is add an NPC or two to get the quests going and expand on the current selection of weapons and gear.
    Plus it would fit in nicely with a vertical progression system, as they could add new trials for new ilvls.
    Perhaps this would also be a good chance to introduce new stats that stray away from this bland selection that we're stuck with right now.

    And please have an open mind while replying, I'm not saying it should be exactly the same system, it would be tweaked to fit FFXIV and it's playerbase, obviously. I'd bet most would likely tire themselves out cursing if they saw they had to kill 400 Morbols, for instance.

    TL;DR
    Bring back this awesome system, SE
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    Last edited by Kyata; 02-05-2014 at 02:39 PM. Reason: magian, trials, content, casual

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    Absolutely NOT.
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    As long as I don't have to WS 2500x on a certain mob on a certain day of week while it is raining, I'm all for it.
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    NO NO NEVER AGAIN ><

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    Everyone thought paid retainers and fantasia would be the end of it.
    You were warned.
    Cash shop in, TrystWildkey out.

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    Like the Maat fight? good god no!...omg i still hate that old man to this day!...i had never cursed so much at a computer screen until i had to do that trial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyata View Post
    Those who don't want to take part in the tedious trials can simply not, they'll still have the other content that drops alternate gear.
    So those who didn't like it, you know, why not make like a tree and leave?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyata View Post
    So those who didn't like it, you know, why not make like a tree and leave?
    When you post in a public place, and ask for a public opinion (even ones with "an open mind") you're still going to get some people who disagree. Possibly especially with systems similar to Trial of the Magians.

    For what it matters I think its great to think things like this up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dashuto View Post
    Absolutely NOT.
    This. We have a steady progression system already. They're called Allaghan Tomestones.

    The only reason trials of the magians was inserted in FFXI was because the core of the game didn't have a place for steady progression. FFXIV is built around the core of a modern MMO, which has a place for a steady progression system. ToTM in FFXIV is unecessary.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    This. We have a steady progression system already. They're called Allaghan Tomestones.

    The only reason trials of the magians was inserted in FFXI was because the core of the game didn't have a place for steady progression. FFXIV is built around the core of a modern MMO, which has a place for a steady progression system. ToTM in FFXIV is unecessary.
    So you're saying the system everyone keeps complaining about is the only thing we need, and any new progression content is bad? No body loses when they add more choices. Keeps people busy and they don't have to conform to only one method of doing things.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dashuto View Post
    When you post in a public place, and ask for a public opinion (even ones with "an open mind") you're still going to get some people who disagree. Possibly especially with systems similar to Trial of the Magians.

    For what it matters I think its great to think things like this up.
    Was mainly in reply to those who I'm 100% sure didn't read my post D:
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    I'll limit my response to thus: I never want to camp NMs again.
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