Swim - Underwater Map! How about it SE!

[NefGP]

Do not want.

An area similar in theme (if not looks) to the Underwater Alzadaal Ruins in FFXI though, that'd be cool. Like maybe an abandoned allagan research lab? (throwback to FF8 >.>)

[Erana]

I would like to see swimming and underwater areas to explore, although underwater fighting always turns out kinda lame. I would like to see spear fishing make a comeback though with underwater fishing, Swimming into shoals or taking down larger fishing Monster Hunter harpoon style.

[Ecks007]

Could be like Sea in XI, you know, where you didn't swim. It was like walking/running normally but everything had an underwater feel/look to it.

While I have actually enjoyed the underwater mechanics of games like GW2, because it actually gave the impression of my character really being underwater. I mean really, when you are in water of any kind about the only thing you can do fluidly is swim. So yeah.. fighting in the water would be slow somewhat in reality, and clunky because.. it's effing water. It slows you down, weighs you down (if you're wearing clothes other than a bathing suit or simple/light clothing).

That being said, I would like to see an underwater area, but honestly I don't think I'd want to swim through it. While it might be slightly immersion breaking, since this is a fantasy realm who's to say someone can't cook up some magic or magic device that lets us walk/run, breath and even talk normally while underwater.

[RazeLandale]

Nothing good in gaming has happened underwater since ecco the dolphin.

[Dreamer]

Nope. I've played Guild Wars 2. It had underwater combat which I really hated. It was clunky and so hard to navigate. Especially one dungeon where most of it was underwater... it was horrible.

I'll only accept Blitzball as something we do in water.

Wow, I completely blocked out the GW2 underwater stuff... *shudder* thanks for reminding me! xD

Just chiming in to disagree with the above. GW2 has the best underwater combat in the genre. If FFXIV did decide to incorporate swimming (which is not going to happen, let's be serious), that's the model I'd want them to follow.

[Skivvy]

Just chiming in to disagree with the above. GW2 has the best underwater combat in the genre. If FFXIV did decide to incorporate swimming (which is not going to happen, let's be serious), that's the model I'd want them to follow.

I really enjoyed it in GW2 also. While I wasn't the best at fighting underwater, I still loved getting to explore down there and thought they did a good job with it. Also liked how their zones had just about 0 invisible walls, but that's another topic all together right there >>;

[Nici]

I chip in my vote for no underwater experience please...well i'm lying a little, i would like to see swimming/exploring underwater but for DoL classes only, exploring while gathering would be interesting in my opinion, besides...i think a roe in heavy pld armor underwater would be silly to see to say the least or anything in heavy armor really. XD

[Chihaya]

One of the problems with underwater combat is that it adds another axis to the system.
On ground you only really have to worry about the X and Y axis, sure sometimes there's ledges an rocks but the target itself is not really moving in the Z-axis (altitude).

Anyone that played Aion and experience the flight combat would know that this is extremely disadvantageous for melee who have short attack range and now having to worry about their target now being able to escape by going over or under them.

To add some realism for underwater... people swim right? The movement should decreased effectively making you pretty much shark bait. And I wouldn't even think about casting fire or thunder magic underwater.

[Naunet]

To add some realism for underwater... people swim right? The movement should decreased effectively making you pretty much shark bait. And I wouldn't even think about casting fire or thunder magic underwater.

I don't think you need to have silly restrictions like overly slowed movement speed or ineffective spells. xD That's silly. It's a video game.

At the very least we need swimming. Get rid of the damn invisible walls around every body of water that's deeper than ankle height.

[Tupsi]

I don't think you need to have silly restrictions like overly slowed movement speed or ineffective spells. xD That's silly. It's a video game.

Hey, remember in a Final fantasy game where you'll be impacted if you wore certain armor in a magnet cave? Yeah what a silly restriction, its a video game.

Protip: It actually adds depth to a game if you have to actually take caution about your environment. No wonder MMOs are so lifeless nowadays lol.

Yes please.

Anything to open up the game and make it more explorable. Sometimes it doesnt feel like an MMO with all the small zones, instancing, and invisible walls. Probably due to ps3 limitations.

Yoshi did say they are going to do both underwater and flight in different expansions.

This game needs something, it feels so small and confined, its another lobby waiting MMO for your instance queue to pop.

I miss big open world sandboxes, Im not saying this game needs to be a sandbox but sheesh give me a reason to go out and do something and give me the final fantasy feel of adventuring.

They already stated it's due to THEIR DECISION to barrier off certain spots to prevent players from getting stuck or going to areas that has nothing there, i.e you see that ocean? Sorry to break it to you but there's nothing out there for you to "get to".