SMN DPS: Pushing it to the limit

[Altimis]

Hi, I want to ask a question here please

I do feel like I am not sastisfied with my SMN DPS, I did rotation like this threads suggest

My item level is 88 with Allagan SMN book, INT is around 502-504 with PT, DTR is 298 and CRT is 529 something

Its normal SMN DPS will always lose DRG? (that DRG is full 90 armor but decent accs 70 mixed with 80) I just wonder, I feel like I never ever able to catch up awesomeness of DRG big dmg

Feel disadvantage here, anyone please help me sort this, appreciated it

[Cons]

[Altimis]

lol necromancer with no answer to my previous post

Oh by the way, ignore my previous post (02-28-2014) please, its shame to ask stupid question like that, I was newb at that time

I finally mastered my SMN, until now, no one can rival me so far ... boring

PS. Your pic is funny, Cons

[Wrydas]

Quick update, I was able to push crit to 600 with crafted and food. To date the highest I've pulled in t5 is 430 dps, Lev x 370 dpsand t6/7 350 dps. I often stream my runs and post the dps charts, check it out. Twitch.TV/wrydas217

[tayo]

Quick update, I was able to push crit to 600 with crafted and food. To date the highest I've pulled in t5 is 430 dps, Lev x 370 dpsand t6/7 350 dps. I often stream my runs and post the dps charts, check it out. Twitch.TV/wrydas217

Hi I saw your video, and good job. just wanted to mention, you should basic attack. it's super helpful. specially fights like t6, t8, or parts of twin.

you will notice the difference in ur dps.

best of luck

[Legionne]

A good rotation I found is to start the fight with RS>> Bio(instant dot)>>> followed by Bio 2(Longest standing dot) >>> followed by Miasma (second longest standing dot)>>> run up to target and apply Miasma 2>>> followed by Contagion(will boost all applied dots, increasing their duration by nearly double)>>>apply fester>>>> followed by swift cast>>>Shadow flare >>> reapply Bio>>> Fester>>> ruin x3, and Fester and reapply all dots when necessary. Also apply Spur/kindle whenever off cool down.

tip:
If you are new to summoner or have a bad PC/bad internet service, don't take your pet off sic. Keep your pet on Heel, and let him apply his attacks on his own. The computer auto attack is always faster than obey and attack. You will lose a lot of dps if you manually try to apply his commands.

[xxalucard]

tip:
If you are new to summoner or have a bad PC/bad internet service, don't take your pet off sic. Keep your pet on Heel, and let him apply his attacks on his own. The computer auto attack is always faster than obey and attack. You will lose a lot of dps if you manually try to apply his commands.

This is completely wrong. You will gain dps if you manually apply all of Garuda's commands (efficiently).

Sic is a command that should never be used, period. People with bad PC's or bad internet service should not use Sic either.

[Legionne]

This is completely wrong. You will gain dps if you manually apply all of Garuda's commands (efficiently).

Sic is a command that should never be used, period. People with bad PC's or bad internet service should not use Sic either.

It's not completely wrong because I tried it both ways, on different computers, and how your internet service or computer runs will affect how efficiently your pet cast. Not all computers are made equal.

[Wolfenkritter]

tip:
If you are new to summoner or have a bad PC/bad internet service, don't take your pet off sic. Keep your pet on Heel, and let him apply his attacks on his own. The computer auto attack is always faster than obey and attack. You will lose a lot of dps if you manually try to apply his commands.

That is bad idea for several reasons. In Garuda's case, if set to Sic she will:
1) Waste Contagion recklessly
2) Use Aerial Slash which will cause her DPS to drop against single targets due to its 3 sec casting time
3) Use Shockwave if an enemy approaches her, which will annoy everyone

You just don't have Garuda on Sic ever. All SMNs should have her set to Obey, its an important habit anyway.

Ifrit though... if you're using him, can sortof get away with being left on Sic. The only real downsides are that he will use his Stun move (Which can be dangerous in certain fights) and that he'll slow his DPS a bit using Radiant Shield (Though isn't as bad as Garuda).

[Legionne]

1) Garuda egi contagion is the third ability to get cast. I always had enough time to cast, RS, Bio, Bio 2 Miasma, before Contagion would proc, hence it wouldn't be wasted needlessly. As a summoner you should always keep your dots stacked through out the entire fight anyways.

2) True, this is the one draw back when using garuda on sic, against a single boss fight, but I found in the case of mob fights like in Turn 4, and phase 1, 2, 3, possibly 4 of turn 5 it actually doesn't matter, because you apply Bane to the group.

3) Garuda only uses shockwave, when your Garuda is in close proximity to an NPC. She won't utilize this ability when you are a fair distance away (about 15 yalms) from the target.

4) As I stipulated before, I only recommend this course of action when latency is a problem for you or you are new to the job.