Burn the healer. Is there another way?

[Hulk_Smash]

MRD should be capable of killing any Healer of the same Rank Gear. Failing to do so meant you are not playing optimal at all.

So, I'm gonna assume this is a personal attack against me. I never said I *couldn't* kill healers in similar gear. I just hit rank 30 this week. Tell me, what should i have done to beat Healers with better gear than me, when i was not a rank 30? I used my team mates, and their abilities to get the job done. If that meant sleeping a higher ranked, higher geared healer, and then killing off his/ her whole team, then thats what was done. As of now, no healers are getting away.

Even still, my response was to the OP as well as yours. No, you don't have to always burn the healer first. And there are other ways to play besides: Tank on healer etc...

I personally like to have fun as well as win. And for me, there are times when killing someone other than the healer first is more fun.

[TaneshimaPopura]

@ Hulk

What was it in the context being personal attack? As I said, pairing both Direwolf MRD vs Direwolf Healer. The MRD will always come up top if either your Range DPS or Melee DPS is decent. Sure you could kill a Direwolf Healer when you aren't but that requires your other assisting teammate to be at least capable of pressuring the healer where he has to make a choice to waste his CD or let someone die.

Sure killing MRDs is good but even with B4B the MRD can just Vengeance and negate the penalty, or right click the buff. Current state of the game is if the Direwolf MRD pops Berserk the healer rarely has the healing potency to cope with the damage and has to resort to CC or CDs.

[Hulk_Smash]

Don't get me wrong. I don't directly target tanks first, the majority of the time. But when one decides to runs in, behind my wall, with his/ her healer LOS, then they must die. How else will they learn their lessons? I have stated this in past threads, but all classes should be accounted for. If I'm wasting time on a tank or dps, while the healer if free casting, then shame on me. If we are able to cc chain a (geared) healer, make them use purify early, then sleep for full 30 sec duration, I'm gonna let the healer sleep. Then I'm gonna kill all of their team, while they count sheep.

Number 1 on my list was SMN/ BLM, not the tank. So i don't want you to think I'm playing bad by going straight for tanks. Yes, they are 2nd, only because thats the target *I'm* going after. If I can burn a healer down, I can definitely burn a tank, while keeping pressure off my healer. Especially since tanks are the #1 threat for healers, because the majority of tanks target the healer. I'm sure you have seen this yourselves, how a tank will jump on someone not the healer, healer has to either burn CD's to keep that person alive, or let the die to stay alive them selves. If a tank rushes the healer first every time, the healer doesn't really get forced to make any tough decisions. They only have to worry about themselves.

Most of the time, I solo que, and have to roll with what ever hand i have been dealt. If I'm dealt other rank 30's, then no issue. If the hand consists of half pvp gear, and half pve gear, then considerations need to be made. Do i have a WHM or SCH? Are they geared, and can stay alive? Is my DPS good?

All I'm saying, is no. You don't have to burn the healer first every time. It pays to have different methods and tactics. Some of those involve being unconventional, and targeting different classes.

[Youmu]

Anytime I get a pve geared healer, I tell them to dance circles around poles as their team bumrushes him, I sleep them off while my two melees are burning into the healer, usually after I've burnt his purify with sleep. Soon as I think pve geared healer is safe from purifies, I throw two flares on the healer, hopefully stunned or holmganged by then.

Seems to do pretty well.

[blueblankets]

not true about mrd beating any healer 1v1. enough stun resist and healer can survive mrd burst.

Although with a little bit extra help the healer will certainly die. Like a hit or 2 from another dps.

[Hazanko]

PvP is still broken! T.T
I myself don't see any reason to step foot in Direwolf until it's fixed.
Seriously any who say different then this easy game is just for you! c:
I on the other hand enjoy a good to decent challenge and with the current state of PvP, I would have to say it's crap :c
But then again this is my personal opinion with only a handful of others from my server. ^-^
In the end you don't need to kill heals 1st.
If you facing a BLM, they die 1st,
if no BLM then you could go for heals 1st but they'll give you the run around until CDs are gone and then you're more then likely to get them, but at the same time did one of your DPS just die?
More then likely yes, cause their team was focusing one of your dps the entire time as your team went for their healer.
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In the end it comes down to which healer can live longer and support his/her teammates the most before getting downed themselves. *Of course this isn't done solo, healers rely on their teammates and they're supportive abilities as well*
Healers are more then likely to go down 1st if not the BLM (sleep troubles) or the BRD (who's constantly shooting/interrupting heals/R.dps*SNM/BLM*) or the SNM (Since they'll more then likely be instant casting *Ruin2/Miasma2* to throw out interrupts if not sending their pet on the heals/BLM/SNM to also interrupt).
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Again just personal opinion of myself and a handful of others from my server. Please no aggroz! :c

[VincentNightray]

I always go for healers first regardless

[Lucenia]

That you do Vincent, that you do *evil stare*

[Spyrit]

In 30/40 cap the strat is always the same kill the healer first. I've made it my playstyle choice to disrupt the healing game, save sleeps for when either I am in trouble, and w/e possible save my healer, seems to reduced my DR issues with sleep. I scathe to interupt the heals, make them LoS their team and heal themselves. It's open season on BLMs, so I just adapted to it by running from the dogpile and scathing a healer. Scathe is not effected by UI, costs little mp, makes a healer's life hell. However the scholar's pet will get slept from me, since people refuse to kill it, helps to keep the pet and the scholar LoS from one and another.

In order to win you have to shut down the healing game, bottom line, by either killing the healer, LoS the healer from their team, or interupting the healer.

[warren-ragnarok]

what SE needs to do is add something like swtor did to cover and a skill for warrior too...reduced damage taken by that cover was placed on, maybe if they added a defense boost to cover, and redirected all damage back to tank, it would kill the "kill the healer" strats somewhat

now i dont expect that much, but something like that would be helpful for pvp....and yes, make it a pvp only skill