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    Let's look at the JP version of the explanation on the Duty Finder Low Level Roulette.

    「コンテンツルーレット:ローレベル」の経験値とギルのボーナス値は、参加するクラス・ジョブのレベルによって決定され、参加先コンテンツの道中で得られる経験値、ギルどの差額を報酬として得られます。
    What it says, is that the experience and gil bonus are determined by your class/job level, and given as a lump sum less the amount of experience and gil you earned during the duty.

    Now let's look at the EN version:

    Bonus EXP and gil will be awarded to compensate for the discrepancy between character and duty levels. A further percentage will then be added based on character level.
    So, today, which one do you choose to believe? =D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    What it says, is that the experience and gil bonus are determined by your class/job level, and given as a lump sum less the amount of experience and gil you earned during the duty.
    So, if I'm reading that right, you'll get exactly the same amount of total XP from a roulette regardless of which dungeon you do and how many mobs you skip? Assuming this is correct, that is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bixby View Post
    So, if I'm reading that right, you'll get exactly the same amount of total XP from a roulette regardless of which dungeon you do and how many mobs you skip? Assuming this is correct, that is.
    I'm beginning to wonder if this value of XP ends up at roughly ~45% of what you currently need to level as well.

    Everyone is correct, yay!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    Let's look at the JP version of the explanation on the Duty Finder Low Level Roulette.



    What it says, is that the experience and gil bonus are determined by your class/job level, and given as a lump sum less the amount of experience and gil you earned during the duty.

    Now let's look at the EN version:



    So, today, which one do you choose to believe? =D
    Why does SE's localization team suck this much? Is it really that hard to directly translate a line of text and not leave important details out? I'm starting to think these guys don't actually speak Japanese, and just break open a kanji dictionary and a vocab book for translations. Whatever they can't figure out, they just wing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bixby View Post
    So, if I'm reading that right, you'll get exactly the same amount of total XP from a roulette regardless of which dungeon you do and how many mobs you skip? Assuming this is correct, that is.
    That's how I read it as well; however for things like Ifrit we obviously get less, so it's also possible that it's a pre-determined amount for each dungeon, i.e. for Sastasha, you have a list of EXP values for level 18-49, then for Tam-Tara you have another list for level 19-49, then for CbM another list for level 20-49 etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Youmu View Post
    Why does SE's localization team suck this much? Is it really that hard to directly translate a line of text and not leave important details out?
    To their defense the original could have got changed and nobody thought better to give the localization team a heads up, while the rest of the team have their work so compartmentalized and disjoint that nobody realized the difference. You'll be surprised now may big, well-known international brands and established companies don't have any sort of proper localization workflow in place. Most likely Square Enix doesn't have a proper localization review workflow in place. It could also be that their localization team was instructed specifically to hide details from players so they went out of their way to translate it as such.
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    Last edited by Zfz; 02-08-2014 at 08:50 AM.
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    I actually just did a DR on my 43 PLD. I can't remember the xp I had before going in. But I got Copperbell Mines. Oh for reference, my xp after this run is: 226356 / 373700

    [18:12]You gain 162162 gladiator experience points.
    [18:12]A bonus of 162,162 experience points and 2,300 gil has been awarded for using the duty roulette.
    [18:12]You obtain 361 storm seals.
    [18:12]You gain 5980 gladiator experience points.
    [18:12]A bonus of 5,980 experience points and 450 gil has been awarded for being adventurer in need.
    [18:12]You obtain 180 storm seals.
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    The first room of AV gives about 4k per mob with rested bonus and there's about 20 mobs in there making that a whopping 80k per pull. Only takes about 15 mins per pull so you can just enter then vote abandon, repeat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marxam View Post
    The first room of AV gives about 4k per mob with rested bonus and there's about 20 mobs in there making that a whopping 80k per pull. Only takes about 15 mins per pull so you can just enter then vote abandon, repeat.
    Yeah I see people doing this in Party Finder and hope to try it. But the problem I'm having is running out of rested EXP in one run and that's with 20hrs+ per day. I Wont need to worry about it much longer have two jobs after my SCH left to level. But I wish they would double rested EXP bonus.
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    Orophin Calmcacil
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    The big chunk of XP was probably more noticeable before because prior to the patch changes it was very rare to see anything higher level than Ifrit story mode in the Roulette. As it's been pointed out above, people are getting higher level dungeons more often and the bonus is offset by the amount of XP you receive from killing normal mobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rupart View Post
    snip.
    Since I started the Thread and I don't think anyone was crying about anything. All I have to say is that, I wasn't crying before they "Fixed" Duty Roulette nor am I crying now. I've pretty much been doing them daily since 2.1 hit and I've always gotten decent EXP until today. So I never knew that the higher level dungeon the less Bonus EXP you get until today. That's why I asked if they nerfed it over night.

    So easy fix Tomorrow or the days after that if I get a high level dungeon I'll leave.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orophin View Post
    The big chunk of XP was probably more noticeable before because prior to the patch changes it was very rare to see anything higher level than Ifrit story mode in the Roulette. As it's been pointed out above, people are getting higher level dungeons more often and the bonus is offset by the amount of XP you receive from killing normal mobs.
    The only thing which sucks about the Bonus EXP being lower is you lose EXP in the long run.

    The Bonus EXP caps around 217k, that's the most I've gotten on a level 49 job.

    So example
    I got 68k today from a high level dungeon, But if I would have went to a lower level I would have gotten 120k+. Lets say 120k so I lost 52k from the Daily Bonus. I can run any dungeon at any time, So the amount of EXP from mobs doesn't matter.

    I see what people are talking about with the Bonus being lower in higher level dungeons because you get more EXP, But if you want to maximize your daily DR then it is best to do a low level dungeon and then just spam a high level dungeon.



    Quote Originally Posted by cotti View Post
    No.

    Today, I dinged 50 WHM during a Tam-Tara on Roulette, and I received about 200k exp. I received less than that in earlier levels.

    Only your interrogation points did get a (terrible) buff, OP.
    OK... the EXP sounds about right. I didn't have any jobs under 30 when 2.1 came around, But I think the bonus is 60k or 90k and just goes up from there maxing out at 200k+ Obviously depending on the dungeon.
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    Last edited by Arkista; 02-08-2014 at 08:02 AM.

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