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  1. #11
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    Until they fix the Alt+Tabing in fullscreen I couldn't care less about a client side UI. beause that would just lead to client side UI mods, and sense I can't Alt+Tab my CPU needs to stay at my normal resolution so I can play "Fullscreen" and work in Photoshop at the same time.

    Until I can safefully adjust my fullscreen games resolution I don't need people hounding me about the "In" UI mod that would make my screen unplayable.
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Because you are too lazy?
    Menu -> Configuration -> Keyboard
    You are confusing laziness with ease of access and intuitiveness.

    Yoshi-P did hint that they plan to make the UI client side in one of his letters.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by nRosenberg View Post
    Even after UI lag fixes in previous updates, UI in FFXIV is still so much less intuitive and responsive compared to many other MMOs out there, and I believe this contributes significantly to the feelings of slow, boring, and sluggishness that people are experiencing when playing FFXIV.

    A client-sided UI should be the utmost priority tweak for the UI, before anything else.

    I know it will take a long time to do this, and that is exactly why you better start working on it now, SE.

    I am also sure that the community will greatly value feedback from the development team on this matter.
    Heya!

    Can you teach me?
    What advantages will bring a Client-sided UI and what does it that a Server-sided UI doesn't? Just for knowledge, you know...

    The More You Know
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  4. #14
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    Server-side UI = You PC only sends input signals to the server and he evaluates it and triggers the action (even for stuff like inventory)
    Client-side UI = Actions that are unrelated to the world trigger immediately and other actions are queued (inventory opens right away, maybe even items show if they are cached)
    Thus far only character movement is client-side (which explains why other players see you far behind them while you say you're right behind them)

    But that bit of lag is my least concern. More annoying is the fact that this lag is eating away actions and that UP and DOWN sometimes browse through the skill panes and sometimes switch through targets :/
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renshi View Post
    Heya!

    Can you teach me?
    What advantages will bring a Client-sided UI and what does it that a Server-sided UI doesn't? Just for knowledge, you know...

    The More You Know
    ============
    What Coldfire said. Server-side UI makes opening windows like inventory and synthesis window dependant on your connection to the server. If you end up with a high ping, your UI responses slow down.

    Client Side UI means the speed your HD can load the window is how fast its going to respond.
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    Last edited by Reika; 06-25-2011 at 12:38 AM.

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Renshi View Post
    Heya!

    Can you teach me?
    What advantages will bring a Client-sided UI and what does it that a Server-sided UI doesn't? Just for knowledge, you know...

    The More You Know
    ============
    tl;dr version:

    Client Side = Actions are registered immediately and only need a server confirmation for certain aspects, e.g searching or lists display immediately if the server isn't struggling.

    Server Side = Actions requires a confirmation from the server as well as an answer. Multiply this by the thousands of others needing said responses. It also produces pretty hefty latency problems and why the stamina and cooldown timers are out of whack.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    tl;dr version:

    Client Side = Actions are registered immediately and only need a server confirmation for certain aspects, e.g searching or lists display immediately if the server isn't struggling.

    Server Side = Actions requires a confirmation from the server as well as an answer. Multiply this by the thousands of others needing said responses. It also produces pretty hefty latency problems and why the stamina and cooldown timers are out of whack.
    And is one causes for the server stability problemim sure. probably the major cause.
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  8. #18
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    I too am not overly enthusiastic about the game being made to be pplayed with a gamepad. Perhaps if it gets a large population of console gamers in the game, but right now your gaming populace is 100% PC, so why make it more convenient to use a gamepad? I have a gamepad, but I like using the mouse and keyboard more when at my PC, it's just something about being a PC gamer I guess. Help us out SE.
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  9. #19
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    UI is so much laggy. It needs a lot of improvements as well.
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greencactaur View Post
    Please SE just add a better UI suited for pc gamers. I understand the game was meant to be played on console/Gamepad, but I don't want to play with a gamepad I want to play with my Keyboard and mouse. :l Also why can't I open my inventory by pressing I? Why can't I open my Linkshell menu by pressing L? Why can't I open up my point allotment menu by pressing p? Gear should be g. Configuration should be o and attributes I guess could be C? Please just do it :l
    absolutely. Im all for it, even though atm im playing with a controller, and i must say, its not very good with controller either... which is even worse. Both systems are not working properly. Since atm you need a mouse and the controller for some things, which is BS. They need to make UI for PC/keyb/mouse and a proper controller Interface and people should be able to chose. Trying to make one ui for both could work but looking at the system now, they just are not able to make it good so they better make 2 different uis. And... ANYTIME SOON
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