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  1. #21
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    Errors's Avatar
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    Errors Phynrir
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    If folks think the 30 points they spent on their summoner or scholar stats is making the other gimp, than they have other issues. 30 points isn't breaking anyone other than people who aren't good at playing their jobs in the first place. Sad but true folks.

    Also folks need to realize that they are playing the arcanist class, your job is your speciality. It's a basic concept that even single player video games do. Rarely does a game allow you to be good at everything.
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  2. #22
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    Naberrie's Avatar
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    Inari Silverfox
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    Zalera
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    Machinist Lv 80
    I have five on my retainer. I've pretty much run out of things to spend seals on so I just blow them on Keeper's Hymns and Matter to repair my own gear.

    Not really seeing the problem here. And I have a 50 SMN/SCH.
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  3. #23
    Player Zaft's Avatar
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    Leo Strut
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Errors View Post
    If folks think the 30 points they spent on their summoner or scholar stats is making the other gimp, than they have other issues. 30 points isn't breaking anyone other than people who aren't good at playing their jobs in the first place. Sad but true folks.
    It's important when it comes to min/maxing your group's potential. Somebody else with the same gear as you, but with those 30 points in INT instead of MND, will have superior DPS, RNG willing. So why take the person with lesser DPS?
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  4. #24
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    Errors Phynrir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaft View Post
    It's important when it comes to min/maxing your group's potential. Somebody else with the same gear as you, but with those 30 points in INT instead of MND, will have superior DPS, RNG willing. So why take the person with lesser DPS?
    Please show me one piece of content that can't be beat as a summoner or scholar that has the other's point allocated? Those precious 30 points aren't going to make a lick of difference end game if you are geared properly and know how to play the job. If you can't heal as SCH because a few extra HP healed. Then you are either horrible at the job or horribly under-geared. If you can't get that extra damage from your dots to kill something. Then you are either horrible at the job or horribly under-geared. I'm assuming you are seeing the trend here.

    As for min/max. That's simple. Pick one job. Bam done. Want to be a "hard core OMG LOOK AT MY STATS IS ONE POINT HIGHER THAN YOURS! RAAAAWWWWRRR!" player? Create a new character for each job, choose the race that will give you the best stats, and spend those 30points into the stats you need. Done. Or go the other route and purchase a keepers hymn for everytime you want to switch between scholar or summoner. You want to min/max right? Done.
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  5. #25
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaft View Post
    It's important when it comes to min/maxing your group's potential. Somebody else with the same gear as you, but with those 30 points in INT instead of MND, will have superior DPS, RNG willing. So why take the person with lesser DPS?
    MMM MMM dat boost to Ruin II!
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  6. #26
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    ZephyrAM's Avatar
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    Lynia Celeste
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    Hunting Logs expire, FATEs are useless for people at Lv 50. yay for making people grind just for the sake of grinding.
    FATE's give Seals at 50, that's the point here. Thus, they're not useless. And what is leveling off FATE's if not grinding? Why is that different then raising seals off FATE's?

    Roulette's and the supply/provision missions are a great source of seals too. Once you hit 50 (which is the only time you should be using a Keeper's Hymn) you have nothing else to spend seals on anyway. You just build them constantly with no outlet, so you start buying Hymns just so you don't cap out.
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    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/1556132 ~ Lynia Celeste

  7. #27
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    Kimikryo Torahige
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 74
    just do AK WP and co and trade in all the gear you dont need. a lot of people pass on it instead of greeding. I never need on WP or AK stuff if I am in with a job that is equipped better, so I donÄt take an upgrade form someone who might need it.
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  8. #28
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    The stats are boring. There is simply no question that we just invest in the primary stat because they make so little difference if we spread the stats out. On top of that, some stats have unclear effects forcing people to rely on third-party analysis---which come back telling us that anything but the primary stat is worthless.

    Customization? Customization is only meaningful if the effects can be felt. But in FFXIV, all you feel when you divert away from the primary stat is that you seem weaker.

    For this reason I'm not really bothered that it's expensive to reset the stats---because there's no point doing so.
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    “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

  9. #29
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    Ruin Darkstride
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    Excalibur
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    Sage Lv 100
    Regardless of why they are expensive, why do you need to repeatedly change your stats?

    Outside of Arcanist, there really isn't any need for re-allocating your stats. Especially on a regular basis. Every class already has a "best" stat or two, so how often so you need to change it? I don't think there is any content that deviates so much that you need to respec to complete it. I see these as a "fix" item if you have somehow completely screwed yourself with poor stat allocation before unlocking your job....not a constant stat-change tool.
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    Xion Wraithaven
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Lumiin View Post
    What I don't understand is why I can only have 5 at a time :<
    I have 25 of them, and it says on the tooltip 25/99.

    Maybe you're getting stack size limit confused with the amount you can purchase at a single time? Since seals are capped are 50,000, you can only ever afford to purchase 5 at one time. But, they stack to 99.
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