New 15 minute timer is awful for Primals/Bosses

[Dimo]

Why do this? I just got done with a Ultima HM where the OT was still wearing lvl 49 stuff. Obviously we wiped a few times...quickly, and had to just sit there for 10 minutes waiting to abandon. I can understand dungeons, but please change it back to 5 minutes for Primals/Boss instances!

[juniglee]

Only if you promise not to initiate Vote Abandon after every 2 wipes.

[Lafiele]

No, this prevents abuse.

[Axidrain]

This is lame. It's a vote. How can it be abused if half of the party wants out?

[Alistaire]

This is lame. It's a vote. How can it be abused if half of the party wants out?

This. It's lame in general; I don't think they expected players to like this change.

[AjoraOak]

This. It's lame in general; I don't think they expected players to like this change.

They expect people to like anything they do, true story.

/1.0 flashback

[Tupsi]

They expect people to like anything they do, true story.

/1.0 flashback

Firstly, 1.0 was rushed out to try to "compete" with Cataclysm, they didn't expect us to like it lol, they wanted to meet a quota and try to beat competition. Secondly, this does prevent abuse because people always vote abandon after 1 or 2 wipes, sometimes sh*t happens - Then you have trolls on the NA/EU datacenter (and yes I've only seen this happen on NA/EU datacenter) that vote abandon randomly once you reach behemoth or tita..acheron which sometimes catches people off guard and they accidentally hit yes or a whole team does it just to troll the run.

It's a good change It also promotes people actually trying stuff rather than "whelp we wiped, why even bother, no one shot, fail group, bye!"

So basically if you go in and someone decides to afk in the dungeon, before you had to wait 5mns now it's 15?

Great...

:/

It's only for Vote Abandon, not kick as far as I've seen. If someone wants to leave that badly they can leave and take the 30 min lockout.

[Dyvid]

Only if you promise not to initiate Vote Abandon after every 2 wipes.

Yep, this OP is why you can't have nice things :P

This is lame. It's a vote. How can it be abused if half of the party wants out?

well when the half that votes to abandon is the ones with short queue times, yea it's been getting abused.

[TeganLaron]

This is lame. It's a vote. How can it be abused if half of the party wants out?

Because half the party is two healers and two tanks. There's no downside to them quitting as they can just queue again and get another instance swiftly, whereas the DPS could be queuing for anywhere up to an hour.