FFXIV STILL being credited for SE's Financial Success!!!!

[HeroSamson]

Blissa is correct, FFXIV gives the illusion of a open world, you walk around fighting Fates these can be now called Events because of lightning, FFXI shan and Dragonquest Fates, Dungeons in each zone which consist of only 4-24 players but never outside fights unless they are the big fights which never pop up and rarely see which drop horns and capes to outdated armor.

The game revolves around Myth and Phil and CT- if you got past this part the only thing you have is Coil after that nothing except you wanna try pvp go into a closed off area not in open world.
Updates Re organized dungeons you seen, primal fights with Re organized moves for a item which you may or may not get because of people who need or just cant win and sometimes a new area or new fate or fight maybe a little bit of story.
which can be done within 24 hours. hoping jobs rdm or drk will hold you over or don't wanna quit cause if you have continued subscription you get a prize.

[HeroSamson]

I like the game a lot and I understand its only been out for a short time, I see FFXI updates are flying in quick is the money being used on FFXI and FFXIV getting the short end of the deal here?

[Duelle]

Now to close this... I'm not a hater... I'm a lover and that's why I'm still here. I hope this game holds incredible success because the end of SE would mark the death of a life long friend. Simple truth... the game is on the decline and SOME (not all) of what the haters are saying holds value. SE should do the best they can to create a fun and enjoyable environment for a large global fan base. "I love everything about this game" does not help it grow. Constructive criticism does!

That's kind of the thing, though. Aside from FFXI-nostalgia goggles used as a filter to see XIV as a failure/subpar, most of ARR's problems are quality-of-life related. We haven't had overly glaring issues that ruin gameplay or break the game.

Class design is solid for the most part (bard and summoner whiners not-withstanding), with WAR being the only iffy design and even that got fixed to a degree with this last content patch. Dungeon design has also been decent for the most part. I do take issue with the fact that the 4-man dungeons are built around a formula (easy first boss, notably more difficult second boss, easy-or-relatively-hard final boss), but I'm hoping they expand their approaches to dungeons as the game ages.

I can really call SE out on only two things. One being endgame raid design, but my opinion on that is somewhat hampered by the fact that I've never set foot in coil yet have raided in other games and clearly see some of the issues with endgame based on testimonials (like the fact that each turn of coil seems relatively short for a raid and should have multiple bosses with their own loot tables instead of only one boss at the end of each turn). The other being the use of multiple versions of primal fights (not to mention that extreme modes should be there entirely for e-peen and shinies and have absolutely no story component to them, much less a questline that pushes players into the extreme primal fights).

[AldoVonAlexandros]

yay, more money, more games

[Billie21]

Rage quitters are the minority. Those of us who use these forums are just a very small part of the whole subscribers. Most people dont even look at these forums and probably for the best XD. Since there are some really toxic people around here.

We don't know that.
I'm not saying it's false or true, we simply don't have the numbers.

This article isn't any news as far as FFXIV is concerned, we already knew that the initial sales for ARR had far exceeded SE's expectations.
Many "rage quitters" had paid for 3 or 6 months, their sub was still running at then end of the year.

The only news this article gives us is that of SE's general financial situation for 2013.

In this case, it's important to know what Square-Enix defines as success though. Unit's sold? Number of Subscribers? Number of Happy Customers? It could be a combination of many things. Typically if you focus on making your customers happy you should have a high number of subscribers and sell a lot of units, ect.

Looking at video games as a form of entertainment I think the best way to define success is by asking, "Have I made a fun game?"

One would think.
Sadfully (or not, some people enjoy skinner box games, after all), making addicting and/or "habit-reliant" games is usually a great way to make money.
Those don't require a very high fun factor. Games that require you to play over time (as in lockouts, daily tasks, timers etc...) seem to be more and more common, there's a reason for that, and it's not because it's more "fun".

[BlueMage]

The second sold significantly worse than the first, and Lighting Returns had the lowest opening sales of any Final Fantasy title.

This is because after 2 mediocre games everyone knew what to expect. (Me included -- i got a PS3 and FFXIII on the day of its release. I preordered FFXIII-2. I'm so fed up with the FFXIII series that for the first time in my life, i'm just not going to buy XIII-3.)

And, funny enough, the re-release of FF10 sold better than Lightning Returns. People would rather buy FF10 multiple times than buy a completely new FF13/Lightning game once.

[Black91CRX]

Heck, I'd much rather dust off the old PS1 and play FFVII or FFT for the 100th time before playing the FFXIII's.

[Doki]

I'm sure they made a few notes on DLC in FFXIII-2 & 3

[Leira_Raine]

Chrono Cross > Trigger

I. Went. There.

Anyway, very happy with this news. Though I do experience frustration with the game (honestly, what game hasn't been frustrating for one reason or another, never mind imperfect), I do enjoy the world and the growth it has been since the launch of 1.0 (despite its atrocities...).