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    The Keeper's Hymn, Why Limit Us?

    This is just my personal opinion, and I can't really understand the thought process behind making your customizable attributes so expensive to change. To me, it seems to limit customization to only your primary stat, while punishing you if you want to change stats up with a 10k tome limit.

    I feel it stalls progression and free customization that this game is severely lacking.
    Why impose such a high tome cap just to adjust stats? For instance, my warrior plays both offtank and damage dealer in coil. It would be great to pump those 30 vit points into 30 str to be more efficient on certain turns. But with such a high tome cap, your forced into a narrow path of "bis stats" that really stalls any kind of creativity.

    I propose SE removes the heavy tome cap for hymns, and allows us to buy a stat change. Currently I can't see why this would be game breaking, and should be implemented over the current close minded attribute allocation we have now. What are you're thoughts? Should we keep it as is, or allow more freedom of customization?

    (By Tomes I Mean Seals, sorry for the confusion)
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    Last edited by ZeroRains; 02-07-2014 at 07:46 AM.

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    My SCH sucks because i focused on SMN.

    Yay for customization!
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    10k really isn't all that much. What I don't understand is why I can only have 5 at a time :<
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumiin View Post
    10k really isn't all that much. What I don't understand is why I can only have 5 at a time :<
    The thing is that it is expensive. It takes quite a while to farm 10k tomes, and for small adjustments between primals/coil/whatever be it. For the amount of things a stat changed could be used for, 10k tomes are just way to expensive to really allow any sort of freedom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroRains View Post
    The thing is that it is expensive. It takes quite a while to farm 10k tomes, and for small adjustments between primals/coil/whatever be it. For the amount of things a stat changed could be used for, 10k tomes are just way to expensive to really allow any sort of freedom.
    Are you trying to start a troll discussion or something? At first I thought you just had a slip of the tongue but you ACTUALLY BELIEVE that a respec costs you tomes?

    It's grand company seals... those things you can get for trading in trash dungeon drops or running some FATEs in your off time. Hell I spent over 14k buying my FC an aetheryte after the last patch and made that back with next to no effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PlanckZero View Post
    Are you trying to start a troll discussion or something? At first I thought you just had a slip of the tongue but you ACTUALLY BELIEVE that a respec costs you tomes?

    It's grand company seals... those things you can get for trading in trash dungeon drops or running some FATEs in your off time. Hell I spent over 14k buying my FC an aetheryte after the last patch and made that back with next to no effort.
    All because after leveling your FC to max NOW doesn't mean we won't have things to buy from them in the future. If your honestly so closed minded to think that this system is perfect (farming 10k tomes is not something you do in 10 minutes mind you, so yes, it takes quite a bit of time.) Please refrain from using petty things like you trolling and stuff, we don't need that kind of idiocy here, no one wants to farm tomes over and over and over just to change stats for a coil turn then change back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroRains View Post
    All because after leveling your FC to max NOW doesn't mean we won't have things to buy from them in the future. If your honestly so closed minded to think that this system is perfect (farming 10k tomes is not something you do in 10 minutes mind you, so yes, it takes quite a bit of time.) Please refrain from using petty things like you trolling and stuff, we don't need that kind of idiocy here, no one wants to farm tomes over and over and over just to change stats for a coil turn then change back.
    I think he meant you're using the term "tomes" and not "seals" because it takes 10,000 Grand Company Seals to purchase a Hymn Keeper. Not tomes, which are philosophy and mythology respectively.

    OT: I agree though, it isn't "that fast" to get 10k, per every time you want to respec, which is why I stopped playing SCH at all and just focus solely on SMN. Yoshi-P got what he wants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroRains View Post
    All because after leveling your FC to max NOW doesn't mean we won't have things to buy from them in the future. If your honestly so closed minded to think that this system is perfect (farming 10k tomes is not something you do in 10 minutes mind you, so yes, it takes quite a bit of time.) Please refrain from using petty things like you trolling and stuff, we don't need that kind of idiocy here, no one wants to farm tomes over and over and over just to change stats for a coil turn then change back.
    I know it is hard to get this through to you but you really have to get it out of your head that respecs require tomes.

    Like I said I had figured that you had a slip of the tongue and had meant to say seals all along but then you went on about how you need to farm primals/coil/whatever so you really have it stuck in your head somehow that allagan tomes are somehow required for buying hymns. If you're going to complain about something you should at least have the slightest clue about what you're complaining about.

    S-E-A-L-S

    Better yet try and squeeze into your head that you don't need to be the absolute perfect specimen of your job at all times. I've had my stats split 20/10 on my Smn/Sch and I haven't had a single occasion where someone chewed me out because my healing showed a 20 mind deficit or my DoTs were obviously 10 Int behind the other Smn the party knew.
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    Last edited by PlanckZero; 02-07-2014 at 05:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroRains View Post
    (farming 10k tomes is not something you do in 10 minutes mind you, so yes, it takes quite a bit of time.)
    Not in 10 minutes, but in 2 days.
    duty roulette, FATEs, GC leves, beastmen dailies, supply & provision missions, GC hunting log.
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    Last edited by Felis; 02-07-2014 at 05:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroRains View Post
    (farming 10k tomes is not something you do in 10 minutes mind you, so yes, it takes quite a bit of time.)
    That's the entire point. They specifically do not want you doing it quickly. You're complaining about something they specifically said that they did on purpose. This will go no where.
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