New Role, Support Classes

[Aaron_T]

So generally in mmo's its normally a holy trinity.
Tank, dps, healer.

Why not add something else like a synergist (buffer) or sabatuer (debuffer)
Or even both into one class? You know for stuff like haste, shell, silence, blind ect.

It would make the gameplay feel more Final Fantasy.
It would help keep the genre true to its nature and diversify itself from other mmos.

Closest thing we have now is a bard.
I'd love to see one of these classes, I know Time Mage has been suggested before.

[Sylve]

Because i see no one willing to play a class whose purpose is to sit there and buff people. Ask yourself, how many pug BRDs even bother to sing?

[Nahara]

You know for stuff like haste, shell

A) Yoshi-P has specifically said that the players will never get Haste. B) Shell already exists in the form of the Proshell Trait for Conjurers.

Ask yourself, how many pug BRDs even bother to sing?

Even better question: How many of them use Foe Requiem?

[Vanguard319]

Even better question: How many of them use Foe Requiem?

I do, I just get yelled at by the whm when they start screaming for ballad, and my mp is already depleted from using requiem or peaon.

[elreed]

A) Yoshi-P has specifically said that the players will never get Haste. B) Shell already exists in the form of the Proshell Trait for Conjurers.



Even better question: How many of them use Foe Requiem?

I DO............

[Miiu]

Because i see no one willing to play a class whose purpose is to sit there and buff people. Ask yourself, how many pug BRDs even bother to sing?

I'd play the shit out of a pure support class. Loved brd in FFXI

[Tupsi]

Because i see no one willing to play a class whose purpose is to sit there and buff people. Ask yourself, how many pug BRDs even bother to sing?

This is a problem with Barcher design - When it was more support like in 1.x no one had issues with it, people even still gear swapped to enhance the songs lol. Support roles, sadly, has no place in generic MMO design, only specialty MMOs have room for support or even debuff classes.

Yoshi said players will never get haste because he hates the idea of us focusing on one stat (OPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPS.)

I'd love a pure support class. I'd even take more classes that mix support with dps like brd.

Lack of class deviation from the trinity is one of the factors that makes group content less interesting to me.

We still have hopes for FFXI Corsair to pop up when Musketeer is available, since as we all know, COR DD is pretty amazing in some encounters as well as buffing potential. All they really need to do is throw in Geomancer too, buff/debuff spheres is a pretty interesting mechanic.

[alhandra]

Because i see no one willing to play a class whose purpose is to sit there and buff people. Ask yourself, how many pug BRDs even bother to sing?

umm a bard who isnt playing mp song for his healer is a bad bard, pug or not i wouldnt group with that bard

[vinces]

umm a bard who isnt playing mp song for his healer is a bad bard, pug or not i wouldnt group with that bard

This is a ridiculous statement. Outside of Coil Turns 4/5 and maybe Titan EX, there is absolutely no use for Ballad. If your healer needs MP song all the time, he's either a bad healer that cant manage his mana or dps need to stop dying/dodge better.

[Nekodar]

This is a ridiculous statement. Outside of Coil Turns 4/5 and maybe Titan EX, there is absolutely no use for Ballad. If your healer needs MP song all the time, he's either a bad healer that cant manage his mana or dps need to stop dying/dodge better.

Regardless of content and general situation, if the healer runs out of MP, bard should Ballad.
Doesn't matter if healer is bad or the dps can't dodge or tank not doing his job. Either you're a good bard, which is pretty rare, or you're the common bad bard.