New Role, Support Classes

[Aaron_T]

So generally in mmo's its normally a holy trinity.
Tank, dps, healer.

Why not add something else like a synergist (buffer) or sabatuer (debuffer)
Or even both into one class? You know for stuff like haste, shell, silence, blind ect.

It would make the gameplay feel more Final Fantasy.
It would help keep the genre true to its nature and diversify itself from other mmos.

Closest thing we have now is a bard.
I'd love to see one of these classes, I know Time Mage has been suggested before.

[Sylve]

Because i see no one willing to play a class whose purpose is to sit there and buff people. Ask yourself, how many pug BRDs even bother to sing?

[Nahara]

You know for stuff like haste, shell

A) Yoshi-P has specifically said that the players will never get Haste. B) Shell already exists in the form of the Proshell Trait for Conjurers.

Ask yourself, how many pug BRDs even bother to sing?

Even better question: How many of them use Foe Requiem?

[Miiu]

Because i see no one willing to play a class whose purpose is to sit there and buff people. Ask yourself, how many pug BRDs even bother to sing?

I'd play the shit out of a pure support class. Loved brd in FFXI

[BoomerOU]

I'd love a pure support class. I'd even take more classes that mix support with dps like brd.

Lack of class deviation from the trinity is one of the factors that makes group content less interesting to me.

[Tupsi]

Because i see no one willing to play a class whose purpose is to sit there and buff people. Ask yourself, how many pug BRDs even bother to sing?

This is a problem with Barcher design - When it was more support like in 1.x no one had issues with it, people even still gear swapped to enhance the songs lol. Support roles, sadly, has no place in generic MMO design, only specialty MMOs have room for support or even debuff classes.

Yoshi said players will never get haste because he hates the idea of us focusing on one stat (OPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPS.)

I'd love a pure support class. I'd even take more classes that mix support with dps like brd.

Lack of class deviation from the trinity is one of the factors that makes group content less interesting to me.

We still have hopes for FFXI Corsair to pop up when Musketeer is available, since as we all know, COR DD is pretty amazing in some encounters as well as buffing potential. All they really need to do is throw in Geomancer too, buff/debuff spheres is a pretty interesting mechanic.

[Synapse]

FFXIV is not Final Fantasy. It has every crap the generic MMOs have.. a Tank, Dps and a healer.

FFXI had/has pure support roles: BRD(song buffs), RDM(average dps with enhancing spells), DNC(moderate dps with healing buffs), GEO(elemental buffs)... etc etc..

[NyneAlexander]

lol COR DD. You mean "COME COR AND RESET MY 2HR" DD

Also, FF had support roles because it had 6 man parties. I highly doubt you'll see a support role in a 4 man PT system.

[Tupsi]

lol COR DD. You mean "COME COR AND RESET MY 2HR" DD

Yeah, unfortunately I wasn't talking about 2006, but I must have imagined how COR is pretty much one of the key DD these days

Also, FF had support roles because it had 6 man parties. I highly doubt you'll see a support role in a 4 man PT system.

Yeah, even in our 8 man parties there won't be room since those are few and far inbetween - It was quite the stupid decision to go with 4 man for "most of the encounters in game", it's really...stupid, no other way to describe it lol. Hell XIV used to have 15 man parties.

15 man. :l

[Shadowedge]

So generally in mmo's its normally a holy trinity.
Tank, dps, healer.

Why not add something else like a synergist (buffer) or sabatuer (debuffer)
Or even both into one class? You know for stuff like haste, shell, silence, blind ect.

It would make the gameplay feel more Final Fantasy.
It would help keep the genre true to its nature and diversify itself from other mmos.

Closest thing we have now is a bard.
I'd love to see one of these classes, I know Time Mage has been suggested before.

It'll never happen because the game needs to be balanced for PvP. So all classes must have the ability to deal damage. I'd love to play a pure support class though. Plus, adding a 4th "type" would require completely reworking the DF system.