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    TallonOverworld's Avatar
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    Tallon Overworld
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    WAR - full myth build and Coil

    To start, I know ppl do coil for bit of stat "balance" but i believe this is just a lie. People do coil to get the i90 drops AND for the boost in accuracy to move on in turns.So since it takes even 1.5 smth month to get the full build with myth gear,including jewels, it's pretty balanced enough in comparison to the coil gear which you can get much more often by doing multiple runs.
    To sum up, myth gear overall gives boost to skill speed and allagan gear boosts accuracy. Problem is that accuracy is the "ticket" to enter coil but myth gear serves no actual purpose right now. So if i get filled up with myth gear i wouldn't be able to enter coil? because from a simple calculation my acc would be about 425. In the worst case scenario, from the confirmed statement by Yoshi that there will be an increase in coil turns i hope there will be a new instance-raid that will not require a cap in accuracy and more "free" in terms of stats that gives top gear or the new currency to get the top gear.
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    Gangaloo's Avatar
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    Ganga Loo
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    If you want to be accuracy capped for Coil with 0 pieces of Allagan you can do this.

    http://xivdb.com/?wardrobe/8644/Warrior

    I think you might need to use food to hit the accuracy cap (and you should be using food anyways).

    You can replace the Titan EX earring with the Darklight one and still hit accuracy cap with food.

    Warriors are perfectly capable of accuracy capping without Allagan gear. I understand it's a pain to do (as it is for every class), but it's there to slow down progression. This is a MMO, and I doubt that the progression model will change any time soon. If they made it easier for players to clear content, people would just beat it even faster and then complain that they have even less to do.

    Atm my static clears Coil and EX Primals on Monday in < 2 hours then pretty much have nothing to do for the rest of the week besides level other jobs (that we can't even use in Coil due to the lockout) or level alt characters (which some of us have done).

    Anyways, bottom line really is that you CAN accuracy cap without Allagan gear, so this complaint will go mostly unheard.
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    Last edited by Gangaloo; 02-05-2014 at 10:37 PM.

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    JeTaisNoobie's Avatar
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    Eborel Kreuz
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    The main and underlying reason you're not getting into coil is because of that scary look!

    Jokes aside. I'm not too sure what your rant is about but from what I understand, I think (might be wrong) that you've no idea how to build your gear set in order to get accepted into coil groups? Considering you just joined the forums and made a grand total of 7 posts, I believe you haven't had a clue as to what you're trying to say (also evident by the conclusion of equal length to your "argument" (?)).

    I would suggest that you surf around the forum first to find useful information with regards to building your gear set. If you still have any questions, make a new post, this time round, with a clearer thought flow and process.

    Regardless, let me just say this, you wouldn't want to be in full myth gear anyway, since some parts of the myth gear isn't BiS.
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    Glaive Incursio
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    The new coil turns will be harder then T5(assuming you can get past it as thats a requirement to continue) and you can just assume of the bat that there will be accuracy thresholds we'll need to meet for those new raids, I'm betting higher than the one needed for Turn 5. Accuracy isn't a ticket to enter coil, It's a ticket to enter only two turns of Coil, mainly turn 4 and 5. Turn 1 and 2 you can get away with example, the 425 accuracy you've mentioned because if you look at the loot tables for Turn1-2 tanks get quite a bit of drops with accuracy to help you move onward to the next turn. If you're having accuracy problems, primal weapon. and the myth gear's purpose is to be mixed up with Allagan to help max out your stats.. Majority of my gear is myth cause it holds more parry, allagan is only there to help me get my ACC cap for T5. It has a purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gangaloo View Post
    If you want to be accuracy capped for Coil with 0 pieces of Allagan you can do this.

    http://xivdb.com/?wardrobe/7950/Warrior
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    Why is the Allagan helm on there? Lol Def won't get that anytime soon since thats a T5 drop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleisterz View Post
    Why is the Allagan helm on there? Lol Def won't get that anytime soon since thats a T5 drop.
    Because xivdb is awesome and doesn't like to save changes.

    Should be fixed now.

    Also, replace the Allagan ring with the darklight one (gives me accuracy). No damned clue why xivdb wardrobe has issues with ring swapping.

    Nm I just remade the whole set:

    http://xivdb.com/?wardrobe/8644/Warrior
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    Last edited by Gangaloo; 02-05-2014 at 10:37 PM.

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    Kori Fleming
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gangaloo View Post
    If you want to be accuracy capped for Coil with 0 pieces of Allagan you can do this.
    I don't think you linked the right set because that set has Allagan Gauntlets, Ring, and the head from T5. lol

    Anyway, with the Dual Haken I'm fairly certain you'll be close to 481 and reach that with HQ La Noscean Toast, if not HQ Stuffed Cabbage. You can also opt for VIT capped (at the least) Gryphonskin accessories, which all have accuracy on them.

    Most of the Allagan Tank gear is from T1 and T2, which you can do in full DL w/ Relic. By that point, at least now, you'll be able to afford some Myth piece which will boost your accuracy (AF+1 WAR chest, for example). It is a bit silly that all the Tank jewelry has no accuracy on it, but you honestly don't need it. For example, my Allagan ring is -accuracy vs the darklight or hoplite ring, my Allagan belt has less accuracy than the Myth equivalent as well. The Allagan chest (T1 drop) gives me +10 accuracy vs the AF+1, but -10 Parry. This all allows me to reach 481 accuracy without food with the Dual Haken. So, basically, with food, full Myth, and the Dual Haken you can reach the T5 accuracy cap no problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    I don't think you linked the right set because that set has Allagan Gauntlets, Ring, and the head from T5. lol
    Yeah read my other post. XIVDB wardrobe has weird issues with saving sets (usually just not saving them, and this time it wouldn't let me swap rings so I had to remake the whole thing).


    Anyway, with the Dual Haken I'm fairly certain you'll be close to 481 and reach that with HQ La Noscean Toast, if not HQ Stuffed Cabbage. You can also opt for VIT capped (at the least) Gryphonskin accessories, which all have accuracy on them.
    Don't need Dual Haken to accuracy cap either. Although it definitely helps.
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    Eborel Kreuz
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    I don't think he needs a BiS guide. Maybe this would be better?


    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...lE&usp=sharing

    With this list, you can probably figure out why people would want to go to coil to get loot. You don't need to think too much into it, just understand you need to value parry over the other stats, and the accuracy should fall into place.
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    Last edited by JeTaisNoobie; 02-05-2014 at 10:46 PM.
    -Eborel Kreuz
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    http://xivdb.com/?wardrobe/8270/Current-Warrior
    Here's my current build with 487 accuracy. Sure you can just replace the myth earrings with the Titan's earrings and still meet accuracy cap. The allagan pants is just there cause I got it to drop. Even without the dual haken, you're still at 450. This is using i90 accessories which have almost no accuracy on it which you'll be fine without for turn 1 and 2. As you can see, no drop from turn 4 or 5 here or food.

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