Does tanking carry more responsibility than most?

[Skies]

Really, Davkis.
Each role has more responsibility than others in different battles.
Titan? Role with the LEAST responsibilities is tank. Not saying he has none, but damn if tanking Titan isn't 20x easier than DPSing him, all the annoying mechanics avoid you.
Garuda? Least responsibilities fall to healer, if everyone is doing their job right the healer should worry only about the tank.
Ifrit? HM is... Really only responsibility is the stunner but then again at EX the LEAST is the tank's, you do little more than keep Ifrit facing you, highest goes to healer with not just healing but also not TPKOing the party.

Turn 1? That's a tough choice for the least, but i'd drop it on the DPS who isn't dragging slimes.
Turn 2? Very, very tough call really since the main mechanic is partywide but i'd call it on the melee DPS this time since he'll prefferable be out of rot rotation due to positioning.
Turn 3? Everyone? Like, really.
Turn 4? Tough call as well, anyone fails it's going to hurt, i'm going to call it on tank as you get a moment where you can stop and breath and take a moment on auto for a while while the DPS work on killing everything fast enough. But only a tiny margin there.
Turn 5? I'm not sure I can say anyone has any less responsibility at anything here

[Alanon]

Turn 4? Tough call as well, anyone fails it's going to hurt, i'm going to call it on tank as you get a moment where you can stop and breath and take a moment on auto for a while while the DPS work on killing everything fast enough. But only a tiny margin there.

I have done this fight in every role except healer, using a couple strat variations, so I can tell you that while the "main" tank's job is fairly easy, it's the "off" tank that has far and away the hardest job in the fight.

[Traek]

Why is this thread still going? Lol

Seriously people, go see a Dr. your epeens have been flailing around for far more then 4 hours. All roles have quite a bit of responsibility built in to each fight. Any of the jobs played well makes it by far a much easier fight for literally every fight in game. I can give examples for each and every role, in every fight, if people so desire. Give it a rest.

[Shayuki]

In my opinion, tanking is in general the easiest role, because most of the time all you do is spam enmity combo and stand still in one spot. There are exception but those are mostly knowledge-based and the execution isn't that hard.

In a way, healer is also a pretty easy role because you mostly just spam heals on the tank. I think that in general, DPS is the most difficult role to do very well but the thing is that you can get away with being such a terrible, terrible DPS that it makes no difference. Maybe it we had a DPS check that required 280+ DPS from all 4 DPS throughout the fight we would see the bad DPS get punished, currently every DPS is terrible but that's okay.

In Duty Finder, I haven't yet seen a DPS deal good dps for his item level. Ever. In history. I have seen very good healers and tanks. Makes me think that DPS either is the most difficult role to play well or they all suck.

[JonBigwood]

The question is not who is more important, all members of the team are important. But a tank's decisions are very visible and many times the blunders are deadlier. The role is less relaxed normally, you have to know the way and lead, even in easy places. Life is much more relaxed playing other jobs, except healers in some places. Especially in easier content.

People suffer more with a not so good tank relative to other jobs, tanks are blamed when they have the fault and many other times too. (Most people are nice and don't blame you even if you are to blame, though, you feel bad anyway.)


Titan HM: the tank does not have to dodge, it's much easier. But the tank falls from the edge and it's a wipe, other falls from the edge and maybe not. He does not use well his cooldowns and dies, wipe. (He might not be blamed in this case, though.)

In hardest content where all have to do well their jobs and coordination is very important, things are different.

[Shayuki]

Well, that is certainly true.

I wish that this game actually had a real skill-based DPS check, for example having to kill 4 ifrit nails that require 250+ DPS to kill them in 1 minute(with 1 minute the wipe enrage timer) with acheron-like skills flying around the place that you'd need to dodge constantly. Maybe that way DPS would have some responsibility as well.

Responsibility certainly is very skewed towards tanks, and it doesn't help that the main skill factor for tanks comes in when playing against trash, whereas almost every boss is extremely boring for them, which is the complete opposite for other classes. Yes, you can rotate your enmity skills like a boss in a 3 man trash pull, but no one really cares even if you do it properly, while at the boss you again don't generally have much to do(exceptions are there, talking about most 4mans)


Still, I notice that it's far easier to get commended when playing as a tank, no matter what you do. Even if you just say nothing and run through a dungeon you usually get 1-3 commendments, whereas if you as DPS have over twice the DPS of your other DPS, no one even notices so I definitely think that there's some things rewarding about being a tank.

[SpookyGhost]

I wish that this game actually had a real skill-based DPS check, for example having to kill 4 ifrit nails that require 250+ DPS to kill them in 1 minute(with 1 minute the wipe enrage timer) with acheron-like skills flying around the place that you'd need to dodge constantly. Maybe that way DPS would have some responsibility as well.

Only problem is that "ranged only pls" would only get worse.

[Velox]

You people are thinking into this way too much. DPS have the responsibility to DPS, tanks have the responsibility to tank, and healers have the responsibility to heal. That's it, end of story....

There is no "my job is more important than your job," and if you think so, that is truly sad. You take away one of these things, and your party fails. In football a quarterback can only function when the line holds. They rely on him to do his job and he relies on them to do theirs. Offense, support and defense are equally important. Stop stroking your e-peens.

"But velo, my job is hardest to do, so it must be more important!" FFXIV is faceroll easy. If you find your class hard, then you need more experience.

[Ooshima]

You people are thinking into this way too much. DPS have the responsibility to DPS, tanks have the responsibility to tank, and healers have the responsibility to heal. That's it, end of story....

There is no "my job is more important than your job," and if you think so, that is truly sad. You take away one of these things, and your party fails. In football a quarterback can only function when the line holds. They rely on him to do his job and he relies on them to do theirs. Offense, support and defense are equally important. Stop stroking your e-peens.

"But velo, my job is hardest to do, so it must be more important!" FFXIV is faceroll easy. If you find your class hard, then you need more experience.

You can tell that to Davkis, but thank god the FCs and linkshells I've been in are all sensible players who all understands that everyone has their role to play and no one or job is above another.

[Xuixien]

You people are thinking into this way too much. DPS have the responsibility to DPS, tanks have the responsibility to tank, and healers have the responsibility to heal. That's it, end of story....

There is no "my job is more important than your job," and if you think so, that is truly sad. You take away one of these things, and your party fails. In football a quarterback can only function when the line holds. They rely on him to do his job and he relies on them to do theirs. Offense, support and defense are equally important. Stop stroking your e-peens.

Okay but let's expand upon your logic...

In a 4 man group... tank is 25% of the party, DPS is 25% of the party, and healer is 25% of the party... but there's 2 people doing DPS... so each DPS is only 12.5%, or half of a person. And sometimes you think they've got 1 brain to split between them, to boot.