What's more difficult to use end game? SCH or WHM

[Lafiele]

I've played both, end game, t5 and SCH is hands down a billion times easier. Instant heals, near infinite mana, much less stressful preemptive healing, I would argue it's too easy to play.

However, I bring this up because many people I've encountered say whm so much easier, just spam cure~. That would be true if our mana was infinite.

What do other people think?

[Ilenya]

Wait, if people say WHM is easier by just spamming Cure, wouldn't SCH *still* be easier for the same reason, with addition MP-free healing via the fairy?

[BunnyChain]

I haven't played a WHM in T5 but I can't imagine it being more difficult than SCH. You have no Faerie to watch over, no Aetherflow to watch over, Adloquium needs to be up before a Death Sentence hits. Putting Sacred Soil and try to Succor before Fireballs. I believe the WHM is an "after-care" job while SCH is a "preventive" one.

[wildgalax]

I haven't played a WHM in T5 but I can't imagine it being more difficult than SCH. You have no Faerie to watch over, no Aetherflow to watch over, Adloquium needs to be up before a Death Sentence hits. Putting Sacred Soil and try to Succor before Fireballs. I believe the WHM is an "after-care" job while SCH is a "preventive" one.

not true, as a whm also needs to stoneskin tanks prior to death sentence, and timing has to be spot on too early means plummet will take it off, too late means it wont proc even though its on the tank during ds. Also whm has a lot of utility to use, like cleric stancing to help out in important areas, and aoe healing the whole party, keeping regen on tank, keeping an eye on procs to not run out of mana, proper management of mana and cds, and lots more.

[BunnyChain]

not true, as a whm also needs to stoneskin tanks prior to death sentence, and timing has to be spot on too early means plummet will take it off, too late means it wont proc even though its on the tank during ds. Also whm has a lot of utility to use, like cleric stancing to help out in important areas, and aoe healing the whole party, keeping regen on tank, keeping an eye on procs to not run out of mana, proper management of mana and cds, and lots more.

Well, our Paladin puts Stoneskin on himself often, so that (at least) can be a shared responsibility.

So, we have:

• Adloquium (faster cast time but only on SCH) vs. Stoneskin (longer cast time but shared responsibility)
• Aetherflow (restore MP plus Sacred Soil) vs. Shroud of Saints (restore MP and decrease hate)
• Lustrate (up to 3 in a minute, instant) vs. Benediction (once every 5 minutes, delayed)?
• Faerie (placement and 4 or 3 different spells, excluding Selene's Silent Dawn but have to cycle her CDs) vs. Divine Seal & Presence of Mind?
• Succor (preemptive) vs. Mediaca I or II (reactive)
• Sacred Soil (pre Fireball) vs. Cure III (right after)?

They seem pretty much the same, tbh.

Whoever made this 1000 characters limit...

[wildgalax]

Well, our Paladin puts Stoneskin on himself often, so that (at least) can be a shared responsibility.

. Mediaca I or II (reactive)[*]Sacred Soil (pre Fireball) vs. Cure III (right after)?[/LIST]
They seem pretty much the same, tbh.

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i havnt played scholar, and if i would have to guess id say they are a bit harder to play considering they have to manage pet as well. I just dont agree with people who make it out like whm are a lot easier to play and carry less responsibility.

[BunnyChain]

i havnt played scholar, and if i would have to guess id say they are a bit harder to play considering they have to manage pet as well. I just dont agree with people who make it out like whm are a lot easier to play and carry less responsibility.

See, the only thing I said is that SCH is not easier than WHM. :P

but I can't imagine it being more difficult than SCH.

[Kyomih]

I find WHM easier to play (playing both in all content including T5) in new content that I might not be familiar with, mostly due to mechanics.
Both are doing their job really well and I enjoy playing both.

I only say "easier" because you have less skills to choose from for any given situation and no fairy to control.

With that said, once you know a fight both are getting quite straight forward to play. You know when to use which skill and where and when to place your fairy.

While MP management is definitely easier on SCH that doesn't mean the job as a whole is easier to play than WHM, btw.

Wait, if people say WHM is easier by just spamming Cure, wouldn't SCH *still* be easier for the same reason, with addition MP-free healing via the fairy?

No, because a WHM gets away with "only" casting Heals because they are very strong. While a SCH has to combine mitigation skills, fairy and direct heals to achieve full potential.

[Sirantha]

I haven't played SCH, but I got the impression it'd be tougher. Sure, there's MP-free heals with the Fairy and supposedly "half" of your job is filled in with your fairy...but surely managing a pet is an additional complication? That intimidates me a little at the idea of playing SCH. I find WHM quite easy, really. That could be because I've healed a lot in past MMOs and also played a WHM in FFXI, but still, it feels comfortable and quite simple.

[XNihili]

I think WHM is "easier" to play because they have less meaningful tools but harder to achieve good result with while SCH has more tools and things to look for but SCH's tools are so powerful you can achieve good results as long as you have a basic understanding of their use.

EDIT : Like a basic car is easier to drive than a race car but it's harder to win a race with it.