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    Muzzy Yousefi
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    I want to end game SCH and SMN but I cant!

    I have a small issue that is starting to give me a hard time. I want to maximize my SCH and SMN stats and I cant! The 30 allocated stat is shared between the two and I have purchased over 20 tomes and reset it every time. It is really a pain. I don't understand why they have to share that allocation stat (if you put +30MND on your SCH, your SMN will have +30 MND when you clearly want +INT).

    Can we fix this issue? I have full BiS on 3 classes and I'm a min / max kind of guy. it really bugs me. Also wouldn't be this an issue if we introduce more jobs?
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    All classes will eventually have to make the same choice.
    Its just arcanist got it first. Yoshi has even commented that you were sopposed to choose between the two. But yeah, 30 points wont make the job unplayable.

    also just a note. This is like the tenth thread on this i have seen. There are probubly more, but common people, talk about beating a dead horse. I mean really now its just getting rediculous.
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    Last edited by o3o; 02-03-2014 at 03:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by o3o View Post
    also just a note. This is like the tenth thread on this i have seen. There are probubly more, but common people, talk about beating a dead horse. I mean really now its just getting rediculous.
    Good. I hope people continue to bring this issue up till SE realizes how dumb it is. And if this is the price I have to pay for leveling two jobs for the price of one then I'd rather just level them up separately.
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    It's designed this way on purpose. They want you to decide which you want to allocate the points for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    It's designed this way on purpose. They want you to decide which you want to allocate the points for.
    I'm more inclined to believe this was just lazy programming but this isn't really an issue for me anyway. 30 points won't make or break a fight for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikita View Post
    I'm more inclined to believe this was just lazy programming but this isn't really an issue for me anyway. 30 points won't make or break a fight for me.
    We can be inclined however we wish. It was stated to be this way before we could even play Arcanist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikita View Post
    I'm more inclined to believe this was just lazy programming...
    It's no harder to do it the other way. This was a design decision to prevent players from having two endgame jobs from one class where everyone else has to cap two classes to have two endgame jobs. If the restriction is ever lifted, it will be once all classes have a second job.
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    Iymala Vayle
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    It's designed this way on purpose. They want you to decide which you want to allocate the points for.
    This is completely against the design of the armory system where you can play any class at any time. There is no logical reason for one class to be less effective than another even if they do share the same base class. As I main scholar, I do not even bother to switch to SMN and it only gets gear because I play my BLM on occasion. It is pretty much a dead class to be because of the stat sharing. While the argument can be made that it does not make the class "unplayable" 30 int is a good bit to be missing or 30 mind if you go the other way.I personally would not feel comfortable playing in challenging content ( extreme modes or coil t4-5) at such a disadvantage because I like to play my characters to the best of their abilities. It is unsettling that this will rear it's ugly head more often when new classes are introduced further limiting what is beneficial to play based on your choices.
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iymala View Post
    While the argument can be made that it does not make the class "unplayable" 30 int is a good bit to be missing or 30 mind if you go the other way.
    How much more dmg do 30 int more?
    How much more heal do 30 mind more?

    Why don't complain the min/maxer about the missing materia slots in endgame gear?
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    30 more Mind is +60hp / 300, with buffs its 82hp/cure/physic, with crit and shields its more. 30 int is about 21.5 dps
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