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  1. #31
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    Dalavon's Avatar
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    Dalavon Ettore
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    Gilgamesh
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Versiroth View Post
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    Basically don't spam medica 2, and don't regen before the pull. After 1-2 transitions in Titan you'll need to shroud.

    It happens to me as well. Doing Titan EM I WILL pull Titan if I don't watch threat. Based off cure 3 for stomps, and medica for tums, the threat shoots up.
    Don't let people tell you what not to use. The tank needs to stay on their toes on AoE fights, and you have to know when to SoS
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  2. #32
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    Cearka Larue
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    Goldsmith Lv 60
    unless your spamming non stop (which is unlikely), it's more likely the tank sucks and is just trying to shift blame to you, the healer.
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  3. #33
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    Thunderz Canadia
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    you can uncheck regen b4 pulls people are bad

    if you spam any spell to the point of pulling threat from your tank then....................

    I heard drg is a fun job to play you should try it out
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  4. #34
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    Marciano Bozzelli
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    To add a fact to this thread, I'm the SCH that told him not to cast Cure III. He casted it after the first jump in Titan HM with a tank that didn't have relic yet. After he pulled hate, he proceeded to run around the arena with Titan on his back, I typed "shroud", he didn't do so and died. The medica II and regen talks, I can not speak on.
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  5. #35
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    Natsu Sousuke
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Marciano_Bozzelli View Post
    To add a fact to this thread, I'm the SCH that told him not to cast Cure III. He casted it after the first jump in Titan HM with a tank that didn't have relic yet. After he pulled hate, he proceeded to run around the arena with Titan on his back, I typed "shroud", he didn't do so and died. The medica II and regen talks, I can not speak on.
    The other side of the story.

    @OP

    Even if the tank have Relic, casting a big yet unnecessary spell such as Cure III so early in the game is not wise.

    I know i know, SE gave you Cure III so you can use it right? But SE also gave you enmity problem and mana issue. Now deal with it

    If you pull aggro because you overheal with another healer by your side, you are doing it wrong.
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    Last edited by Marcusow86; 02-05-2014 at 12:02 PM.

  6. #36
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    DreamWeaver's Avatar
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    Lucidia Dreamweaver
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    Tonberry
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    White Mage Lv 70
    For future Titan attempting WHMs,

    Unless you're solo healing for whatever reason, it is actually more mana efficient to use Medica/Medica 2 for Geocrushes (Titan Jump attack) rather than Cure III, this is due to the fact you have a healing partner with you .

    I know it's awesome to see everybody's HP go from 20% back to 90% solely due to your one cast, but since you have two healers, might as well split the recovery between the two of you, hence a Medica 2/Medica will easily suffice.
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    Last edited by DreamWeaver; 02-05-2014 at 12:08 PM.

  7. #37
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    Divine Gate
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    Exodus
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Marciano_Bozzelli View Post
    To add a fact to this thread, I'm the SCH that told him not to cast Cure III. He casted it after the first jump in Titan HM with a tank that didn't have relic yet. After he pulled hate, he proceeded to run around the arena with Titan on his back, I typed "shroud", he didn't do so and died. The medica II and regen talks, I can not speak on.
    What weapon did the tank have? WHM still shouldn't pull hate from Cure 3 at that point. That's roughly 4.5k enmity hitting all targets in average gear for that fight. A PLD using RoH combo with Ifrit Blade should be 2k enmity per combo. So more than 20k by the time Geo hits.
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  8. #38
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    To be fair to the OP, as Judge Xero said above, any decent tank should have enough enmity to handle a sudden Cure III enmity spike from a WHM, but the fault indeed is shared between the OP and the tank, there are so many things that can be used to rectify/prevent this issue:
    Prevention:
    1) As mentioned above, 2 healers, cure III should not be required.
    2) Did the PLD pop Flight or Fight? a 30% increase damage will provide a considerable enmity head start.

    Rectification:
    1) Provoke (may not work if regen is in effect, if possible, prime a Halone Combo, use Provoke and immediately Halone Titan, the enmity generated from Halone should be able to overcome the enmity generation from regen effect)

    2) Shroud (But but but I need to save it for my MP regen later on!! Well....if you die to Titan, your MP's shot to hell anyways, so just use it if you pull hate)
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  9. #39
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    Dee Loe
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiramu View Post
    SCH can't keep a PT (Full HP) up by themselves without a WHM not on Titan EX
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9Xztw_R2Po

    Oh, ok.
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  10. #40
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    Dingding Ding
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    Exodus
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Don't use regen? oh...your team is horrible.
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