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    On the Scholar's Eos: A Detailed Analysis of Current State and Future Potentiation

    I've been playing as a scholar in dungeons for quite some time now, and I'm noticing a trend in the manner of which I play. For the majority of the time, I simply allow Eos to operate as it will, without much direction or direct control via the Obey command. There are occasions where I will direct Eos to take a station somewhere near the tank so that I may kite enemies back to the tank/dds (I tend to occasionally pick up adds with my healing potency) or to simply allow myself a bit more maneuverability. There are some trends I am noticing whilst playing as the scholar in regards to the pet, and I'd like to touch on those here as well as provide some potential improvements.

    First and foremost, the current state of ability in regards to controlling Eos could use some work--a Scholar's pet is a goodly portion of our healing potency on the battlefield. I would recommend a way of directing Eos's actions, potentially through a variation of the gambit system seen in FFXII or some other form of macro-management. I believe the developers wanted to make it as easy on the player in terms of not having to micromanage two sets of abilities; however, the lack of customizability renders most of my experiences with Eos as a methodology of apathy.

    The second change that I would like to see is some variation of the "follow" command implemented for Eos. Simply put, enabling Eos to be set on a choice player in the party--most notably the tank--would enable Scholars to manage their own sets of skills and battle tactics without having to worry exactly where Eos is.


    Furthermore, the developers could limit the range of this follow command to a respectable battlefield measurement, thus ensuring that Scholars won't simply succumb to a set-and-forget mindset and must therefore stay with the group throughout the progression of the dungeon.

    These are just some thoughts that I had that I feel would greatly improve the Scholar pet healing experience. It would be a sharp turn from many of the MMOs on the market and ultimately set a pace for the developers to further enhance their classes in ways never seen. Not that I'm saying they haven't already done that with a majority of A Realm Reborn's features; it is simply an emphasis on another step in the right direction.
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    Devs have stated there are no plans for a pet gambit system in the past.
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    Hey, thanks for letting me know that; I had no idea. And that's pretty disappointing that they're not even considering it; it could add a lot of value to the combat system.
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    Having read your arguments, I have to disagree with making the AI inherently better. Since the last patch, I have been using mouse-over macros with the fairy on Obey->Follow to great effect. Proper micromanagement of the pet is what distinguishes a great scholar from his peers. In more challenging fights like Ifrit Exreme, I make the most out of Eos by manually placing her, shielding her, and commanding Rouse/WD, Fey Illumination, and Fey Covenant as completely unique abilities. Left on autopilot, Eos would blow her load immediately and the healing burden would be dramatically higher. I would prefer this to remain so that scholars will have to play well in order to perform well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avette View Post
    Having read your arguments, I have to disagree with making the AI inherently better. Since the last patch, I have been using mouse-over macros with the fairy on Obey->Follow to great effect. Proper micromanagement of the pet is what distinguishes a great scholar from his peers. In more challenging fights like Ifrit Exreme, I make the most out of Eos by manually placing her, shielding her, and commanding Rouse/WD, Fey Illumination, and Fey Covenant as completely unique abilities. Left on autopilot, Eos would blow her load immediately and the healing burden would be dramatically higher. I would prefer this to remain so that scholars will have to play well in order to perform well.
    she is right, listen to her

    Quote Originally Posted by Klandestineone View Post
    I use 'place' but how do you get the fairy to follow the tank?
    this can not be done

    Quote Originally Posted by Soulburn32 View Post
    macro's people.... macro's
    also true, search the post for macros, it will make your life easier
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    I have a question, that touches on this. How do you do this for the PS3 with an already full bar. I find it tricky to quickly scroll through the 3 bars available, the third is pet only and the second is for overflow skills. I've heard a lot of discussion of controlling Eos on a PC, but nothing via PS3... So, I'm curious if anyone else has experience with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ph03n1x13 View Post
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    I have multiple bars for different purposes. My first bar is what I call my DPS bar. I put basic healing skills, aetherflow and all my dps skills on it. My next 2 bars are my healing bars. They're essentially identical but one bar has Eos skills on it and the other has Selene skills. There's just no way to fit both of their skills on one bar while keeping all of your own essential sch skills on the same bar. Since the fairies can't be out at the same time anyway, I just made almost identical dedicated bars for each fairy. My last and 4th bar is what I have termed my miscellaneous bar where I put all non essential skills/ items. I put my pet summoning macro on this bar and my obey/ heel macro too. It's a bit annoying to have to switch bars to summon and put my fairy on obey mid battle but it's the price we pay for using a controller I guess.
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