Suggestion: Warrior improvements

[CrystalRainbow]

I play brd, My wife plays Warrior, Only think I would like is being able to see her TP bar.

If I can't have that. Please give Warriors a self TP kick.
3 Min cool down, Next 10-20 seconds no TP cost.

[Gamemako]

hit unchained, beserk, bloodbath and used convalescence as a cooldown

Convalescence does not affect amount healed by HP drain attacks (Bloodbath, Inner Beast).

If I can't have that. Please give Warriors a self TP kick.
3 Min cool down, Next 10-20 seconds no TP cost.

That's what Infuriated abilites are for. They cost no TP and are subbed in every 6-9 attacks.

[Veronyca]

the issue with war is that when oting or dps mode you don't gain wraith meaning to be useful at your job you gotta pop infuriate just to have access to your abilities. it puts them petty far behind when paladin who has access to all its skills all the time.

first off mook, thank you for seeing the obvious to the whole "just turn off defiance" card. a warrior without defiance is just a marauder that can wear JSE gear and has a slightly higher stat pool. aka pretty terrible in any light.

Because you CAN turn WAR into a pretty good DPS as it is now...
Just throw on melee accessories, turn Defiance off...and bam, you're doing a ton of damage.

Paladin can do the same, and still par-parse a warrior.

Take Defiance off. The warrior will now do more damage. The entire point of Defiance mode is to tank. Not to do damage. I don't think these suggestions are required at all. If you want a DD then just play a DD.

See above. Taking off defiance, which fuels every single warrior ability, thus making us effectively NOT a warrior, should not be the answer.

You also know that Fracture isn't the most TP-costly DoT, right? Phlebotomize, Windbite and Venomous Bite all cost 90 TP...

Fracture: 360 total potency
Phlebotomize: 330 total potency

i shouldn't need to point out the obvious, that a dragoons 330 potency will deal 2-3 times that of the warriors 360 potency. Also phlebotomize is on a much shorter duration, which makes it possible to use on trash.


not even going to argue bard DOTs. they deal less damage on paper but critical way more often, and proc bloodletter, making them into utility.

WAR already does quite a bit more DPS than PLD, at least in my experience. If you're that worried about your DPS, stance dance more; you can get away with it in most fights.

its been parsed. the damage difference is so miniscule its sickening.

[Giantbane]

Fracture: 360 total potency

is it? I thought dots tick every 3 sec. Fracture is 100 initial potency, dot lasts 30s (10 ticks) for 20 potency each. 300 potency.

right?

its been parsed. the damage difference is so miniscule its sickening.

Both jobs are tanks, they should be doing roughly the same amount of damage whether tanking or DPSing.

[FelisC]

its been parsed. the damage difference is so miniscule its sickening.

All the parser numbers I've seen show WAR with a clear advantage with similar ilvls. Maybe it's a playstyle issue?

[ReiszRie]

its been parsed. the damage difference is so miniscule its sickening.

untrue.

WAR throws out more DPS than PLD even with Defiance, and yeah it has been parsed since I have both WAR and PLD at i89 and 90 respectively

There is nothing wrong with WARs, the only problem is the player's own abilities.

[PArcher]

Fracture: 360 total potency
Phlebotomize: 330 total potency

i shouldn't need to point out the obvious, that a dragoons 330 potency will deal 2-3 times that of the warriors 360 potency. Also phlebotomize is on a much shorter duration, which makes it possible to use on trash.


not even going to argue bard DOTs. they deal less damage on paper but critical way more often, and proc bloodletter, making them into utility.

You do know you just confirmed what I said, that Fracture is not the most costly TP DoT...

[Gamemako]

See above. Taking off defiance, which fuels every single warrior ability, thus making us effectively NOT a warrior, should not be the answer.

The answer to what? WAR is a tank, not a DPS. If you want a DPS, play a DPS.

Fracture: 360 total potency
Phlebotomize: 330 total potency

Uhh... no. Fracture is 300 total potency (100 up front a 10 ticks of 20 thereafter). Fracture is so bad that I almost never use it on WAR. Costs too damn much TP. Would rather maintain buffs.

i shouldn't need to point out the obvious, that a dragoons 330 potency will deal 2-3 times that of the warriors 360 potency.

Actually more like 15-35% more depending on WAR equipment choice. WAR also gets bigger damage buff (20% vs. 15%).

//EDIT:

All the parser numbers I've seen show WAR with a clear advantage with similar ilvls. Maybe it's a playstyle issue?

While not tanking, they're basically identical. Sword Oath brings PLD in line with MRD DPS. While tanking, it will depend on your rotation. For max DPS, a WAR will do a BB/SE rotation. Compared to RoH-spam PLD, that comes in around 20% ahead. In reality, you're using BB/SP rotation for that debuff, which puts WAR and PLD pretty close over time (WAR will have a 10% lead or so while just attacking, but FoF is straight-up better than Berserk).