Suggestion: Warrior improvements

[Giantbane]

You also know that Fracture isn't the most TP-costly DoT, right? Phlebotomize, Windbite and Venomous Bite all cost 90 TP...

It's not the TP cost (even though it's high) that's the real problem. The extra damage from fracture is of questionable benefit. The DoT portion (2/3 of the damage) does not benefit from the Storm's Eye buff, so the potency of the attack isn't as good as you'd think. It also means that you're sacrificing either 100% up time for that Storm's Eye debuff (even more of a penalty with another tank in the group) and/or not using another move that could be adding to your wrath stacks (another 2% crit, access to wrath moves, etc). I rarely use it anymore, even if I have TP to spare.


Oh, AND the TP cost is expensive.

[RaideDuku]

Don't expect too much sympathy from BRD's and SMN's, considering that the last patch ripped abilities from them and gave them to WARs. You want to do DPS, play a DPS class.

[FelisC]

WAR already does quite a bit more DPS than PLD, at least in my experience. If you're that worried about your DPS, stance dance more; you can get away with it in most fights.

Although it'd be cool to have another stance that outright increased DPS and dps abilities, that's asking a lot for a single class.

[Alvarion]

Although it'd be cool to have another stance that outright increased DPS and dps abilities, that's asking a lot for a single class.

Not at all! Why not have versatility in your job/class?! Asking too much? Why, because it can be turned into a DPS build? Why is that a bad thing?! Why are people so intent on keeping everything so cookie cutter and boring in this community? I just don't get it. Why can't jobs have different play-styles and utilities? It's such narrow minded thinking.

Edit: And I know this thread is about Warrior specifically, but why can't all jobs have more versatility? 5 skills that separate you between your class and job? Everything in this game has become so watered down. Remember when paladins used to build threat based on heals?! Divine Veil, Holy Succor?! Things that set itself apart from the other tank jobs. What is wrong with having multiple ways of playing a job/class?

[PArcher]

Not at all! Why not have versatility in your job/class?! Asking too much? Why, because it can be turned into a DPS build? Why is that a bad thing?! Why are people so intent on keeping everything so cookie cutter and boring in this community? I just don't get it. Why can't jobs have different play-styles and utilities? It's such narrow minded thinking.

Because you CAN turn WAR into a pretty good DPS as it is now...

Just throw on melee accessories, turn Defiance off...and bam, you're doing a ton of damage.

Heck, right now I think I've seen my Butcher's Block get to 800-900+ crits with Berserk + Maim + Storm's Eye (+ Unchained). And that was when I was closer to i70...I would love to see a full i90 WAR's damage with melee accessories.

[Alvarion]

Because you CAN turn WAR into a pretty good DPS as it is now...

Just throw on melee accessories, turn Defiance off...and bam, you're doing a ton of damage.

Heck, right now I think I've seen my Butcher's Block get to 800-900+ crits with Berserk + Maim + Storm's Eye (+ Unchained). And that was when I was closer to i70...I would love to see a full i90 WAR's damage with melee accessories.

Yes, but you will never take a warrior into a group over any other DPS if given the option and you already have your tank situation taken care of. What is being suggested is creating the option of having a viable DPS output from a warrior. Which, in all honestly, most likely won't come until they introduce another job.

Edit: And I have put out over 170+ DPS on my warrior with dps jewelry on while stance dancing.

[PArcher]

Yes, but you will never take a warrior into a group over any other DPS if given the option and you already have your tank situation taken care of. What is being suggested is creating the option of having a viable DPS output from a warrior. Which, in all honestly, most likely won't come until they introduce another job.

Edit: And I have put out over 170+ DPS on my warrior with dps jewelry on while stance dancing.

So...wait til they put out the MRD DPS job.

I can't effectively tank as a DRG or MNK yet, nor really heal as a BLM.

[FelisC]

Not at all! Why not have versatility in your job/class?! Asking too much? Why, because it can be turned into a DPS build? Why is that a bad thing?! Why are people so intent on keeping everything so cookie cutter and boring in this community? I just don't get it. Why can't jobs have different play-styles and utilities? It's such narrow minded thinking.

Yes, I should have said it was a lot to ask of a job, not a class. Versatility in your job's given role and asking for your job to have multiple roles are two different things. I would love to have a 2nd job for MRD that was DPS oriented, but it doesn't make sense to latch it on to WAR as part of a 3rd stance.

I think the limited playstyles are largely a result of the simple combat system and couldn't be solved by tweaking abilities.

[Junpei]

NO 2 OP.

/10char

[Heartlly]

Why dont u just suggest a dps job for mrd rather then slaping more skills on curent job >_>