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    RMT

    Hi today i had an idea to try to minimize this guys profit, so for this i would like to
    understand what Se is doing, i Block at least 3 bot per day, and i play only 4h a day top.

    So are Se banning them what, once per month? do they just delete their char every day and make a new one?

    Well if that's the case i have two suggestion to make:

    1º: make the blacklist account wide, if u ban one char of someone, u instead ban its account id, blocking also the pm that they can send u if they create or have a second char...

    2º: if 51% of on server blacklist the same account, it become immediately banned in all servers for manual investigation.

    What do u guys think about it?

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    Definitely agree with the blacklist affecting all characters on the account. There's really no reason not to implement that.
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    Here's the thing with rmt bots, you ban one character they make 3 more, you ban one account they make 3 more, you IP ban them, they change it (or use a proxy/VPN) you MAC ban them they change their MAC. After looking at it this way how do you propose banning bots so they have no access to the game?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaels View Post
    Definitely agree with the blacklist affecting all characters on the account. There's really no reason not to implement that.
    They could, but saying "We are sorry for the inconvenience and appreciate your patience!" is much easier and less time consuming.
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    A lot of them also purchase the game itself via stolen credit info! Good luck with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    Here's the thing with rmt bots, you ban one character they make 3 more, you ban one account they make 3 more, you IP ban them, they change it (or use a proxy/VPN) you MAC ban them they change their MAC. After looking at it this way how do you propose banning bots so they have no access to the game?
    If there is, its for SE to find out, not us. but what we can do is help our-self.

    Every single person i game i know, ban the same bots i do every day, so if 50% plus one person on the same day ban that bot, and suspend that account, they will have to spend at least one account per server, per day, this would increase their cost a lot, maybe! enough to make it nonprofit and change for another game.

    Another idea that came to my mind, is to limit the number of different person someone can pm, for example 3 person per minute.

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    All we should do, no have to do, is report em. Always, every time, and right on spot where you see the bot or got pm'ed from.

    The more poeple who report bots the more annoying it will get and, as someone other supposed already, raise their costs.

    Report em, strictly report em.

    I'm on Shiva, and latly I leveled a botanist. I got 3 tells and saw not gathering bots! The tells got reported and I carried on.
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    I like Random-Number-Generator
    'cause I'm able to accept that
    a dice normally has six sides
    a pyramid has 5 sides
    a toast has 2 sides
    AND I CAN'T PREDICT WHICH SIDES IT FALLS TO.

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    Make it so you have to hit level 10 or so to send a tell to someone that isn't on your friends list, free company, or linkshells.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaels View Post
    Make it so you have to hit level 10 or so to send a tell to someone that isn't on your friends list, free company, or linkshells.
    but then what about new players that people are trying to help out with info on how to accept linkshell/fc invites
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaels View Post
    Definitely agree with the blacklist affecting all characters on the account. There's really no reason not to implement that.
    I can see one problem with that. Some of these are people who had their accounts hacked. If they got their accounts back, not only would they find their main blacklisted by the entire server, but every other character they could possibly make. It would force them to move, to try to find a server the RMT had not created a character on with their account.
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