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  1. #31
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    I think at the very least the dungeons need some kind of story mode. Due to the drop-off in demand for old content, new players coming in to the game 6-8 months from now are going to face terrible queues to get in to some of the dungeons. Let's not forget too, that these dungeons are necessary to complete the main quest, and hence get mounts, retainers etc.

    I think the exp, gil, and item rewards for any such 'story mode' should be negligible with the only reward being the reward for the quest that sends you there. But hey, at least people could advance their main quest when the servers are dead at their level range.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naraka View Post
    Isn't it funny how the pirates would travel from shore to shore looking for treasure when the real treasure was in the friendships they were making?
    Borderlands quote from Captain Scarlett?
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    Edit: I sort of rambled onto a tangent, since the OP specifically mentioned level syncing, but I believe that both points are connected to a degree (though I actually prefer syncing in low level dungeons myself).

    I do agree that the fine-granularity of restrictions on dungeons is actually doing a substantial amount of damage to the players' ability to play within reasonable social groups. Lacking the ability to enter dungeons with any more or less than 8 players - and in the case of Crystal Tower, 8 of the correct roles - forces groups to conform to a very rigid structure. I've already seen several groups ripped apart because their jobs didn't perfectly match FFXIV's exacting party standards.

    In lower level dungeons, it's just a matter of filling in the holes or splitting into smaller groups. But for high level content - where tensions are at their worst - is exactly where this problem is exacerbated. The game forces players to say "Sorry, you're not good enough, we're taking the better healer", or "We can't go this week, we're missing a tank", simply because you fail to conform. The system, as it stands, doesn't cause socialization, it causes segmentation.

    Truth be told, I'm not really entirely discontent with the way things are, but what the OP is asking for is not completely unreasonable, and it's a little frustrating seeing people claim that it is. We don't even need to have a chance of winning, but if my group wants to try Turn 1 with two parties of 7 because we have 14 people and don't want to leave the other 6 out, we should bloody well be able to do so. Bringing up FFXI or WoW always brings along an enormous amount of baggage, but I would like to close by saying that in all of my years playing FFXI, not once did I come to a run (even in a linkshell with more than 80 active members) and be told that they didn't have room.
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    Last edited by Hulan; 02-04-2014 at 03:23 AM.

  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulan View Post
    The system, as it stands, doesn't cause socialization, it causes segmentation..
    That's an internet problem, generally speaking
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    Server: Sargatanas || Main Job: Scholar || Chocobo: Bonchon

  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daenerys_Sedai View Post
    That's an internet problem, generally speaking
    While that is indisputable, I would like to point out that the more freedom the players have to choose the group they enter with, the more likely it is that diverse groups of people can work together. It's when you try to force everyone into a square hole, even with they have a perfectly good triangle, that you end up having to shave off unnecessary "edges".

    Are you yellow Daenerys Sedai?
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  6. #36
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    Asif the game isnt already entirely solo based -_-
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeyphr_Darkshadow View Post
    Asif the game isnt already entirely solo based -_-
    Main questline says hi.
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    I like how no one knows how to read in this thread
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhi View Post
    I like how no one knows how to read in this thread
    I was going to read this thread, but now I won't thanks to your comment. Instead, I'll just state my opinion.

    I want to be able to go solo low level dungeons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alwryn View Post
    I was going to read this thread, but now I won't thanks to your comment. Instead, I'll just state my opinion.

    I want to be able to go solo low level dungeons.
    Arcanists used to solo them during early access
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