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    BondEternal's Avatar
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    Roger Valiane
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I use "Target of Target" for Eye for an Eye on my SMN and BLM so that I don't need to change targets to apply Eye for an Eye on the tank.

    As for knowing which mob to attack when the tank doesn't mark, I just look at what the tank is attacking and attack the same one.
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    Player Versiroth's Avatar
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    Kraiden Draxenian
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    Diabolos
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by MrDiezel View Post
    If your tank doesnt want to mark, then he/she is garbage. In case these things happen, you should be prepared to mark things yourself. As far as <tt> , I only use it when healing. You are probably using "target of target" on your rotation skills. Which isnt the best thing to do.
    This is only really true early on. At end game, good tanks maintain aggro on everything at once so everyone can comfortably AOE without worrying about it. In this case, marking really is pointless. I only mark at end game if an add needs to die ASAP.
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    Tinoris Fallas
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Marking is not about losing aggro, it's about focusing down a target, which is always what people should be doing as DPS. For trash, at least.

    That said. I think I agree with Diezel. I have all of the marks on my hotbar from WAR anyway. I think I am just going to mark stuff myself if the tank is too lazy to do it.
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    Matic Valefor
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    NOPE, NO ONE ELSE USES IT YOU ARE A UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE
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    Altani Dotharl
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    Diabolos
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    Marauder Lv 60
    not to target the enemy the tank wants me to kill, i use the enemy unit frames for that

    i actually don't kill what the tank wants me to kill, i kill whatever is taking the most damage. and when i tank, i make sure whatever is taking the most damage is attacking me.
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    Tinoris Fallas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delorean View Post
    not to target the enemy the tank wants me to kill, i use the enemy unit frames for that

    i actually don't kill what the tank wants me to kill, i kill whatever is taking the most damage. and when i tank, i make sure whatever is taking the most damage is attacking me.
    That's seems pretty backwards to me. As a tank, you are the party leader, and hate management should be proactive, not reactive as you describe. If you are a good tank, no one should take aggro from you. Marking is more efficent, plain and simple. And way easier for tanks that are out geared by DPS. Oh, and a bunch of other reasons...see some of the other comments here.
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    Altani Dotharl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinoris View Post
    That's seems pretty backwards to me. As a tank, you are the party leader, and hate management should be proactive, not reactive as you describe. If you are a good tank, no one should take aggro from you. Marking is more efficent, plain and simple. And way easier for tanks that are out geared by DPS. Oh, and a bunch of other reasons...see some of the other comments here.
    i have enough awareness to be able to tell what is being focused and what is not. it is highly unusual for another player to have aggro. even if they do manage to get it, they lose it in the time frame of a 6s stun.

    been doing it like that since i started playing the game and really only had one bad pull, downed all the content in the game besides turn 5.

    and really whats 1 pull out of like all 500+ of the instanced pve raids i have completed lol

    i wouldn't worry about me
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    Itseotle Irracido
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    Diabolos
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    As a DRG, or any other form of DPS, I have it bound to my Z key (Target Target of Target) and will use it in dungeons of all tiers where the tank is not marking. I'll tap it after a pull if its not already obvious what the tank is fighting, just to make sure I snap to what he is threating. Usually it doesn't matter but hey if it helps make his job a little easier why not?
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    Leon Solitario
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 50
    When I'm running as a damage role I always set tank as focus and attack their target unless marked otherwise. I don't understand why this is such a hard concept for many people; you don't have to view the main tank as the party leader, but they should be viewed as the battle leader (unless they are completely inept, in which case it's pretty much a free-for-all if they can't humble themselves to learn).

    When it comes to tanking 4-man content, I can't be assed to mark since you can power through pretty much anything with i80+ geared and skilled players no mater what they focus or not. Tanking 8-mans is a bit different though; if the targets can be marked before battle I'll do it myself, but if they need to be marked as they spawn I'll ask for the most competent ranged player to do so to allow myself and/or the other tank to freely pick them up and snap hate w/o hesitation.
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    Ketsu Wotaberu
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    If the tank isn't marking, he should be flexible enough to attack the appropriate target. Likewise, it's the DPS's job to be on the same page and attack the same creature.
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