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    It's unfortunate the first development team put the new team in this predicament.

    Generally speaking, it seems difficult to imagine a realistic scenario in which these classes won't be separated into a healer and the other a nuker. The problem is, neither currently fit those roles completely. This wouldn't be a problem at all to simply design these classes from the ground up. However, Square has to realize that some players leveled CON for nuking and THM for the same reason. So whichever gets cast as the healer, there could be an angry backlash from that group of players who is now stuck with a healer rather than nuker. But I think it's an inevitably and hopefully those players can see that, for the greater good, it was a necessary evil.

    Now for some speculation. I suspect CON will be the healer and THM the nuker. The lore that follows CON and the Cure spells seem to fit more closely to a healer/WHM than does THM and Sacrifice. Of course I'm overlooking the nukes and ancient magic available to CON, but for whatever reason I feel the total nuking package is easier to foist on THM and its associated story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Val_Rhys View Post
    It's unfortunate the first development team put the new team in this predicament.

    Generally speaking, it seems difficult to imagine a realistic scenario in which these classes won't be separated into a healer and the other a nuker. The problem is, neither currently fit those roles completely. This wouldn't be a problem at all to simply design these classes from the ground up. However, Square has to realize that some players leveled CON for nuking and THM for the same reason. So whichever gets cast as the healer, there could be an angry backlash from that group of players who is now stuck with a healer rather than nuker. But I think it's an inevitably and hopefully those players can see that, for the greater good, it was a necessary evil.

    Now for some speculation. I suspect CON will be the healer and THM the nuker. The lore that follows CON and the Cure spells seem to fit more closely to a healer/WHM than does THM and Sacrifice. Of course I'm overlooking the nukes and ancient magic available to CON, but for whatever reason I feel the total nuking package is easier to foist on THM and its associated story.
    If they take Thms healing spells away, I will be very very upset . However I highly doubt, since they named the classes the way they did, they will take the healing spells off either of them. Conjurer gets its name because it deals with summoning the forces of nature, which encompass the damaging force of the elements and its healing force. Thaum.... I really dont know what that name means, but i've done the Thaum quests and they deal with life and death, and revolve their lives around it, so i dont see them taking their sacrificial type heal or their resurrect spell away.

    So as far as redesigning the base classes, not so much. But they will be adding White Mage, who specialize in healing, and Black Mage, who specializes in damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    If they take Thms healing spells away, I will be very very upset . However I highly doubt, since they named the classes the way they did, they will take the healing spells off either of them. Conjurer gets its name because it deals with summoning the forces of nature, which encompass the damaging force of the elements and its healing force. Thaum.... I really dont know what that name means, but i've done the Thaum quests and they deal with life and death, and revolve their lives around it, so i dont see them taking their sacrificial type heal or their resurrect spell away.

    So as far as redesigning the base classes, not so much. But they will be adding White Mage, who specialize in healing, and Black Mage, who specializes in damage.
    I agree with your lore points. It's confusing to think of where they're going with this.

    I could be wrong, but I thought they mentioned specifically making the classes more specialized and role-specific to avoid the class uniqueness problem that currently exists? Would they not have to redesign the base classes for that? It seems hard to imagine tacking on WHM to one of these classes, as it exists now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    If they take Thms healing spells away, I will be very very upset . However I highly doubt, since they named the classes the way they did, they will take the healing spells off either of them. Conjurer gets its name because it deals with summoning the forces of nature, which encompass the damaging force of the elements and its healing force. Thaum.... I really dont know what that name means, but i've done the Thaum quests and they deal with life and death, and revolve their lives around it, so i dont see them taking their sacrificial type heal or their resurrect spell away.

    So as far as redesigning the base classes, not so much. But they will be adding White Mage, who specialize in healing, and Black Mage, who specializes in damage.
    Believe it or not, Thaumaturge translates to a miracle working saint in history
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