Redesigned Test/Practice Mode for harder fights

[Mysteltain]

We kind of already have "Practice/Training Simulators." They're called Guildhests, and I love the ones we have now, haha! It wouldn't be hard to implement these either, simply have us fight powerful monsters with similar abilities to certain Primals.

[Messenger]

I think they just need to improve the duty finder instead of giving a new feature such as this TEST fight suggestions.

[Colvin]

By adding a practice mode, someone could finally practice a Phase they actually need to learn, so they then could join an experienced group and hopefully get the kill.

Thanks! you get me here. <3

[Colvin]

I think they just need to improve the duty finder instead of giving a new feature such as this TEST fight suggestions.

In what way? What I am talking about is learning the mechanics of fights. How would DF improvements help?

[DeathFiend]

By adding a practice mode, someone could finally practice a Phase they actually need to learn, so they then could join an experienced group and hopefully get the kill.

My point exactly... how can you join an experience group if you have no experience clearing the entire fight? If you practice part by part, how will you know how to handle transition?

[Felis]

What if the trainings would not be in the specific dungeon of the boss, but in a trainingsarea. And not exactly the same boss, but another boss from the same type, same mechanic, but weaker and another name.

As a training for primal fights, the training opponent could be an Egi.

And we could call it Skirmish ^^

[DeathFiend]

All primals have a Hard Mode to its Extreme Mode. If you still suffer in Hard Mode for Titan, there is story mode. Just saying.

[KitanaiKoneko]

My point exactly... how can you join an experience group if you have no experience clearing the entire fight? If you practice part by part, how will you know how to handle transition?

Certain phase changes have fairly clear break points that would still work in a test mode. Examples: Titan heart->post-heart, T9 Megaflare->heavensfall, Garuda EX Phase changes, T5 Aetherial Profusion. I for one would love a T9 Megaflare checkpoint. My group is progressing on T9 but to get any experience on haevensfall/beyond we have to go through 6 minutes of the first 2 phases, which we can practically do in our sleep.

[KitanaiKoneko]

All primals have a Hard Mode to its Extreme Mode. If you still suffer in Hard Mode for Titan, there is story mode. Just saying.

Show me where you have to do the following in:
Titan HM: Tank swap, tank adds, kill a bomb in order to survive, carefully place gaols
Garuda HM: Tank swap, kill an add with proper timing
Ifrit HM: Tank swap, time nail kills, carefully position healers, actually dodge the charges.

[raelgun]

This idea defeats the purpose of doing any dungeons or raids. No MMO has this. You go into a dungeon (Primals included) and you explore. No matter how many times you wipe, you have 60-90 mins to learn the fight. Even if your stuck on primals, if some people cant get through the first phase while you are eager to get to the second phase, simply find other people that can get to the second phase with you.

Anything that your suggesting is basically cheating in my view.

WOW has started to implement this actually, or something similar, the instance themselves dont change but they have something called proving grounds, its recently added and being expanded upon, its where you go and able to practice your role and fine tune it more, so you can become better when you want.

The issue isnt that people are struggling with said dungeon, they are struggling playing with said role, mostly with DPSers, the numbers are quite low across the board and theres nothing in the game that lets the fine tune their gameplay on their own, wow is addressing this in theory with proving grounds.

Its also awesome for theorycrafters like my self cos if we think of something to do and improve upon, its a lot of time to go into a dungeon and test it, i do a lot of testing and having a instance thats designed just for my role so that I can fine tune my ability even more is awesome, this game needs something like this and I think its actually in the works according to the devs somewhere.