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    Hamlet Defense Reborn

    For most of us 1.0 players, we know what Hamlet Defense was. For others you can find the information here: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Hamlet_Defense

    Hamlet Defense brought about a nice focus for all classes DoH/DoL and DoW/DoM. The Preparation Phase, mostly for DoH/DoL, gave most crafters a feeling of fulfillment and usefulness. The Supply Caravans were also pretty fun. It was like it should be, prepping for an all out battle.

    Then came the warfare phase, where players both DoH/DoL and DoW/DoM, had roles to fulfill in a instanced battle to protect whatever. One of the rewards were beastribe seals used in our relic reborn quests.
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    Now pushing forward with this type of battle would bring some more life into ARR. Do away with the instanced battle and make it a all out battle kind of like besieged from FFXI. Although Besieged was instanced it was closed off from the outside so that no one could get in. Adopt that style to ARR so it won't be another Odin/Behemoth fest and raise the actual level of the beastmen past 2 to maybe 5. Bringing in stronger Beastmen that take longer to kill would bring in more players to stop them from taking ______(Fill in the blank devs).


    Rewards could be Allaghan tomes of Philosophy or even Mythology or special gear that is a decent Ilvl for the level of the beastmen. With that said though a upgraded beastmen camp would be in order to recapture what they took.

    Thoughts?
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    What I really want back is Skirmish! There should be a new way of getting those weapons. They're great for vanity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimen View Post
    What I really want back is Skirmish! There should be a new way of getting those weapons. They're great for vanity.
    I really agree with you there! Skirmish was exciting!
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    OP glossed over the major flaw of Hamlet Defense. That being that if you did not perform within ridiculously high parameters (you had to be in the top 10 contributors, if I recall), you got nothing. Unless you also suggest that aspect be removed, all you're asking is for trouble, OP.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    OP glossed over the major flaw of Hamlet Defense. That being that if you did not perform within ridiculously high parameters (you had to be in the top 10 contributors, if I recall), you got nothing. Unless you also suggest that aspect be removed, all you're asking is for trouble, OP.
    Your very right, I did forget about that. I wanted to highlight the "Good" aspects of the Defense rather than the negatives. I'm sure that they'd pull that flaw out to make things more balanced and even. "I think"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    OP glossed over the major flaw of Hamlet Defense. That being that if you did not perform within ridiculously high parameters (you had to be in the top 10 contributors, if I recall), you got nothing. Unless you also suggest that aspect be removed, all you're asking is for trouble, OP.
    Only if you wanted the seals for the relict quests.
    Everything else you got also without beeing in the top 10.
    Mage Hat as example you got in every run with a golden chest at the end.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gwaeron View Post
    What? You could do the thing with ONLY DoL/DoH or ONLY with DoW/DoM or a mix of almost any jobs, if there's any piece of content that DIDN'T force you into a certain role, Hamlet Defense is the one.
    Optimal party setup for hamlet defence was 1 Tank, 2 Healers, 2 DoL and 3 DoH (with speedcraft skills).
    No DD, because the NPCs did the damage. With this setup you got the most points.

    Best in the point system was that it gave you extra points if the weapons/tools were broken ^^
    I bought a lv 1 hatchet and broke it to use it for hamlet
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    Considering it's way easier now to level a crafting/gathering class, it would be interesting, although I don't know if they want to implement content that forces you to play a specific class/job like that again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimen View Post
    although I don't know if they want to implement content that forces you to play a specific class/job like that again.
    What? You could do the thing with ONLY DoL/DoH or ONLY with DoW/DoM or a mix of almost any jobs, if there's any piece of content that DIDN'T force you into a certain role, Hamlet Defense is the one.

    Quote Originally Posted by WiseWolfHolo View Post
    Hated hamlets then and I will hate them now, mostly because the seal drop rate was ridiculously bad and they served no purpose except for the relic progression, which all hamlets really were was a timesink for the relic. Ultimately they would have no meaning in ARR
    I don't see how it would serve less of a purpose than FATEs do. I don't think the point was to put it back in exactly how it was and have it do exactly what it did, seeing as militia gear and DoL hats/tools are now crafted. I'm sure they could think of some reason to put it back in.
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    Hated hamlets then and I will hate them now, mostly because the seal drop rate was ridiculously bad and they served no purpose except for the relic progression, which all hamlets really were was a timesink for the relic. Ultimately they would have no meaning in ARR, sure you could put some half decent armors but why do that when it seems anything with a tome or lockout is pretty much given away. Now skirmish would be nice to bring back, but would all just be for vanity at this point.
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