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    Skyhound Solbrave
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    Does anyone else get disappointed when a fight is easier than expected?

    It happened to me with Titan HM and now Garuda EX. I keep on hearing these horror stories about latency issues making Titan HM dodging difficult and wicked wheel making Garuda EX impossible for melees. Yet both of these fights ended up being much easier than I thought.

    Perhaps it's because I end up over-gearing for these encounters after hearing how difficult they are. It still disappoints me. >:
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    Athalia Hartfell
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    Fights in this game are quite easy to be honest. If someone can't dodge Wicked Wheel then they need to improve.
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    I wanna be a DD so I can have a "opinion"
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    Kori Fleming
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    I'd say Turn 4, but I actually think Turn 4 is the funnest thing in the game. Easy - but fun!

    Edit: Oh, I've got one. Pharos Sirius. One shot it the day it came out, heard before that it was super hard, then continued to hear after that it was super hard. Dunno what dungeon everyone else was doing, but PS was pretty easy. Find out a boss can be stunned + long cast bar that causes a huge problem = stun it.
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    Last edited by SpookyGhost; 02-03-2014 at 05:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    I'd say Turn 4, but I actually think Turn 4 is the funnest thing in the game. Easy - but fun!

    Edit: Oh, I've got one. Pharos Sirius. One shot it the day it came out, heard before that it was super hard, then continued to hear after that it was super hard. Dunno what dungeon everyone else was doing, but PS was pretty easy. Find out a boss can be stunned + long cast bar that causes a huge problem = stun it.
    Yeah, all I heard was how hard this dungeon was. It's really not.
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    Nira Muzyka
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zezlar View Post
    Yeah, all I heard was how hard this dungeon was. It's really not.
    It's because people are all such speshul snowflakes and can't be bothered to pay attention to mechanics, thus making it a hell of a lot harder than it really is, you can easily take a party at the min ilevel and beat it.
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    Oh, I've got one. Pharos Sirius.
    I think that's the thing that stands out the most: all the difficulty that the devs have designed into this game if from lack of information. A fight may be hard the first few times you do it simply because you hype yourself up and concentrate on the fight in preparation for the unexpected. But after a few times you realize it never changes, or it never change enough to warrant that level of attention anymore and the fights become very boring.

    Pharos is a prime example. People who just try to rush the first boss will tell stories about how difficulty it is, but once you tell them adds spawn based on boss HP (probably tanks always notice this kind of mechanism first) and the explosion comes from the debuff (probably healers notice these kinds first), the fight is a pushover all of the sudden.

    And Titan series is just the ultimate of this. Those primals are designed specifically so that when people remember the pattern, they could easily beat the fight. And I think that's the problem. The "hard mode", "extreme mode" may all sound like hardcore stuff, but deep down in its core, this game is still designed for the big masses.
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    “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

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    Connor Colvin
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Hi. All fights in this game are easy because I am good. Because things are easy for me, everyone else sucks and the game is easy in general. I don't care that 80% of the people that play content find it so hard they have to pay for wins. They should all be more like me. If you can't be more like me you should die because you are inferior and have no right to play this game.

    /endsarcasmofvocalminority
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    Yoso Carrasco
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    Titan isn't hard anymore because most of the population has gotten used to the fight. Learning it completely fresh as a FC group took a while as people had to get better at self-awareness and dodging immediately instead of trying to finish whatever they were casting. Even if you are new to the fight typically most of the party will have done it already and are using relics so you pass the DPS check by a mile.

    Also the latency is a lot lower in primal battles now so there is that.
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    You know what? DF will never disappoint you if you're looking for challenge!
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