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    Muzzy Yousefi
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    Gilgamesh
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    Alchemist Lv 50

    I want to end game SCH and SMN but I cant!

    I have a small issue that is starting to give me a hard time. I want to maximize my SCH and SMN stats and I cant! The 30 allocated stat is shared between the two and I have purchased over 20 tomes and reset it every time. It is really a pain. I don't understand why they have to share that allocation stat (if you put +30MND on your SCH, your SMN will have +30 MND when you clearly want +INT).

    Can we fix this issue? I have full BiS on 3 classes and I'm a min / max kind of guy. it really bugs me. Also wouldn't be this an issue if we introduce more jobs?
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    Player o3o's Avatar
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    Holly White
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 66
    All classes will eventually have to make the same choice.
    Its just arcanist got it first. Yoshi has even commented that you were sopposed to choose between the two. But yeah, 30 points wont make the job unplayable.

    also just a note. This is like the tenth thread on this i have seen. There are probubly more, but common people, talk about beating a dead horse. I mean really now its just getting rediculous.
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    Last edited by o3o; 02-03-2014 at 03:02 AM.

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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 60
    It's designed this way on purpose. They want you to decide which you want to allocate the points for.
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    Her Majesty
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    Excalibur
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    It's designed this way on purpose. They want you to decide which you want to allocate the points for.
    I'm more inclined to believe this was just lazy programming but this isn't really an issue for me anyway. 30 points won't make or break a fight for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikita View Post
    I'm more inclined to believe this was just lazy programming but this isn't really an issue for me anyway. 30 points won't make or break a fight for me.
    We can be inclined however we wish. It was stated to be this way before we could even play Arcanist.
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    Arkista Valentine
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    Sorry but this will never change they already said so.
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    Last edited by Arkista; 02-03-2014 at 03:58 AM.

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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    I doubt that the missing 15 or 30 int is the reason you can't do endgame.
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    Iymala Vayle
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    Cactuar
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    Conjurer Lv 53
    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    It's designed this way on purpose. They want you to decide which you want to allocate the points for.
    This is completely against the design of the armory system where you can play any class at any time. There is no logical reason for one class to be less effective than another even if they do share the same base class. As I main scholar, I do not even bother to switch to SMN and it only gets gear because I play my BLM on occasion. It is pretty much a dead class to be because of the stat sharing. While the argument can be made that it does not make the class "unplayable" 30 int is a good bit to be missing or 30 mind if you go the other way.I personally would not feel comfortable playing in challenging content ( extreme modes or coil t4-5) at such a disadvantage because I like to play my characters to the best of their abilities. It is unsettling that this will rear it's ugly head more often when new classes are introduced further limiting what is beneficial to play based on your choices.
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    Player o3o's Avatar
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    Black Mage Lv 66
    You can only enter coil as one class at a time. Just pick the one you coil with or roll an alt. Like in other games where you cant job change on a whim.
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    If I remember correctly, at current top-gear status, 15 INT will only be about 3~4% of your damage output. Suppose you do a whooping 300dps all the time, that's about less than 15dps difference. I'm not sure it's so game breaking to perform slightly lower.

    With that said, I do think the SMN/SCH sharing physical bonus stat is just a programming flaw that got classified as a feature, like many things in software.
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    “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”
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