Common Courtesy with End-game Raids/Dungeons

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Regardless and irrespective of your thoughts. My beliefs and thoughts still stand. I strongly believe in helping other players and not being a jerk. All one has to do is go into DF and do the final bits of the main story quest to run into your fair share of those. Impatient speed runners who have not the time nor inclination to wait for someone new to watch the CS's on their first time through. I am not being hypocritical whatsoever. I am standing firmly by my views, which is that it is wrong to enforce upon others that watching videos is a required thing before you can even go into matters

You seem to be missing this point over and over again. I'll gladly spell it out for you a hundred times, though, just as I would gladly explain any strategy to a DF group over and over again before the time limit expires.

No one is forcibly DEMANDING people watch videos before they do something for the first time. Most of us are saying it is highly encouraged: benefiting yourself and your group.

It's a train of thought that is wrong, and Kuwagami's own experiences as well as mine prove that to ring resoundingly true.

So, "My experiences are the only ones valid. This other guy on the forums also validates my experiences."

No, sorry. This isn't how it works and this is the kind of attitude I was referring to. Since you have misinterpreted the main point many times over, it is safe to assume that you have no idea what 'train of thought' anyone recommending video advice is describing.

Really, though: you appear to be a bleeding heart, willing to help everyone and anyone. How many times have you actually run Titan HM in DF? I'm very curious. Do you think a 3/111 win to total runs done ratio is an acceptable figure? I got my first DF win on the 53rd try. Do you think that's a reasonable number of Titan runs to do until you can beat him?

Giving these statistics (that you seem to lack yourself), do you still think that these people would not have benefited from reading a strat. or watching a video before entering? It's really a rhetorical question because the obvious answer is yes: they would have benefited.

So then my question would be: "Why do you seek to dissuade people from being prepared for these encounters with such low success rates in your average DF run?"

Again, I don't need an answer. You would rather 1 or more of the 7 people suffer on their 54th attempt rather than realizing you were part of a community that depends on you, adapting better habits as a result.

You see: when I break down your character like this, you really don't strike me as the noble crusader you made yourself out to be. Your intentions may be good but, when it comes down to it, you appear to be a little inconsiderate.

I posed a question to my boyfriend, who doesn't play FF14, after explaining this situation we are discussing. He at first started to agree with you: saying that, "No, I wouldn't look at a strategy or video before doing content. That would be kind of boring." and then quickly realized, "Oh: I get it. The people that you are referring to think they are still playing a single player game." and quickly changed his mind.

Videos, as I said, are not some magical panacea that will instantly make players better. Time, patience, the willingness to help others make it through content, even primals on extreme however, goes a heck of a lot farther in completing your goals. Experiencing something first hand always trumps seeing it on youtube. Always.

I implore you to do some reading before hitting the post button in the future. I would very much appreciate it.

As many have pointed out: you won't have all the answers simply by watching a video. You WILL have a general idea, though. That is all most of us are asking for: not for you to be an expert the minute you step foot in an instance.

I honestly find it very difficult to be down to earth and rational with people on this forum sometimes. It would be very easy for me to just retreat back into my FC where we do this content almost daily where the success rate is abysmal in DF. I wouldn't have to deal with the general population and, thus, would defeat the purpose of me playing a MMO: to interact with the online community.

If you wanted an elitist mindset: the reality is that, come 2.2, many of us in these FCs will be formulating strategies to the new fights that do not have any strategies for them currently out. We will probably hit a bump in the road but succeed in the end due to level of play and gear compared to the general population just like 2.1. You will, unwittingly, end up following these same strategies we had used whenever it is that you had gotten to the content. Some guy in your party will have done his homework and will gladly explain things to you because it makes him feel good since he knows something that others do not.

It's almost like I'm talking to the same people who would tell other players to disregard using food because it was a DF run in 2.0 (and even into 2.1). Almost like you wish to spread mediocrity instead of encouraging players to do all within their power to succeed. Who knows how big the stink would be if people requested that you bring medicinal supplies or other things with you as well.

Read this well. You see: I don't care whether people watch videos or not. I don't care whether people read strategies or not. I don't care if we wipe until the time limit is up nor do I care to think about people that might have inconvenienced me by not doing their homework. I just grin and carry. That's all you really can do.

The minute someone decides to encourage mediocrity, on the other hand, is when I start to care. Advising players to not use all the resources available to them is absolutely disturbing.. Whether players use those resources or not is up to them.

This entire time you've been reading my posts but have not understood what I have been saying. We are actually arguing about the same point: do not force your playstyle on another person. You are telling me not to force people to watch videos (to which I told you I do not) and I am telling you to please stop encouraging people to not use resources that are readily available to them (even if you choose to use them or not).

I've considered your thoughts. I don't ask that you consider mine.

I will continue to pop into PF groups seeking help or queuing for DF runs for things I don't need just because it's fun to interact with the rest of the community from time to time. Helping people is how I learned to play MMOs and not get bored while still earning a sense of satisfaction. You're free to continue to encourage players to play on sub-par levels as well, of course.

I believe actions speak louder than words. See you in DF.