Common Courtesy with End-game Raids/Dungeons

[Hitome]

Stuff.

Regardless, the burden is upon those players. If they join a group (you remember we're playing with other players, right?) with this mentality where the group seeks experienced players only, they've violated the agreement upon joining.

If these players would stick to their own communities that would be fine. Most don't. Most want to try to figure things out on their own and think PF is the place to do it in when the run specifies experienced players/players with high end gear...yet this is not the place.

DF doesn't give us an option to separate ourselves from these types of players. Therefore, the best solution to a DF group is to come fully prepared. Sure, you can talk about strategy (but then you aren't really fully prepared..are you?) but that's about it. Everything else should be straight forward.

Yet this is RARELY the case in DF.

DF is the line. Too many of these players cross the line into the PF because they somehow think it will be easier for them.

BTW: something that has been neglected. Time limits are imposed in most duties. If you do your research ahead of time, you might just get an extra attempt or two in before time runs out because ample explanation was not needed in the beginning.

No one wants to enforce people to watch videos: we just think it's a good idea and any player seeking to be a well-rounded individual (whether in the real world or their FFXIV job) should strive to come as prepared as possible.

None of our reasons are selfish. In fact, it is you who is being selfish. You prioritize your needs over the needs of 7 others. Conceited and egocentric attitudes like this are why we have these discussions.

For the last time: MMORPG - Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game

You are playing with other people. Everything you do affects other people.

Coming unprepared affects people negatively. You inconvenience 7 others yet think this is OK instead of forming your own group in PF that seeks newer players.

Many of you assure me you do this...but, from my observation, this is rarely the case. Inexperienced players find their ways into 'high level gear' and 'experienced players only' groups all too frequently. You don't belong in these groups. Conclusion? You want people to hand feed you the information and be carried.

If PF was actually operating the way it was intended, this wouldn't be an issue. Temporarily solution? Set the ilevel req so high that the average player (prepared or unprepared) cannot join. In this approach, you don't really care whether someone is prepared or unprepared because they have the gear to make up for their mistakes.