Common Courtesy with End-game Raids/Dungeons

[SpookyGhost]

Yeah - the most annoying thing in the world is when people don't simply ask for advice if they don't know the fight/dungeon.

Example, queued up for high level DR a few days ago and got HM Copperbell. Copperbell is a really easy dungeon and everyone was appropriately geared, but I always ask before we start moving if anyone is new. No one said a word. Nothing. Not even a "Nah, I've done it before." or anything like that. I'm a bit confused why all 3 other people don't want to talk, but I figured I could gauge their knowledge from the trash pulls up to the first boss. They seemed fine, but I realized that everything was pretty straight forward as far as dungeon mechanics go so it was hard to tell if they had actually been there before. Then we got to the first boss which is pretty much a check of "have you done the dungeon before" (it's pretty obvious what to do, but usually the first time you don't realize it until you're dead). So I ask them "Does anyone need this boss explained?" and again I'm met with complete silence. I pull, first bomb goes off, we wipe. I explain we need to kill the bomb, we do, we don't wipe. The bard in the group knew what to do for the 2nd boss so we managed to beat that one, but not without the Dragoon running in front of me multiple times and needing to be raised multiple times. Also, again, nobody said aaaaanything. 3rd boss, Bard fed the worm, DRG built up stun resist on the boss so I couldn't actually stun his big attacks, but we made it through. Also the DRG earned the mapping achievement.

I reaaaally don't think this is okay. There's no shame in being new, I guess everyone has the fear that if they admit they're new they'll get vote kicked, but I'd rather run that risk and know what I'm doing than not ask and cause multiple wipes.

[Shaone]

I'm a bit confused why all 3 other people don't want to talk, but I figured I could gauge their knowledge from the trash pulls up to the first boss.

I once queued a titan HM for kicks (30+ min queue), got in, tank asked if anyone was new, someone said they were. Tank instantly dropped before even first attempt, run ruined, queue wasted (this was before In Progress was allowed on trials).

But the attitude that it should be expected for people know fights before they attempt them contributes to this, leading to people sometimes being afraid to admit it's their first time. I am always happy to explain things for new people.

The last time I was in DF Pharos, 2 people were new. One even mentioned having queued this before, only seen to first boss due to people quitting after 1 wipe.

I explained everything as we went, and we 1 shot the whole dungeon, with just 1 death doing an optional room (one at the bottom of the spiral stairs) which we recovered from without wipe, and I walked away with 3 commendations as a DPS. Just because people are new to content, doesn't mean that it will necessarily take longer, if you take a moment to explain things.