Common Courtesy with End-game Raids/Dungeons

[DoctorPepper]

I really don't understand why this is even an issue, expecting people to watch a video of everything before they do it is silly, for some people it helps but from my experience you never really learn a fight, especially like titan, until you try it several times and gain experience. Watching videos is helpful, sure, but at the end of the day if somebody doesn't want to spoil content they've never done I don't blame them.

If you don't want to play with people who are inexperienced then make your own damn group and add experience to the party finder comment like everybody else, don't throw together a quick pug that includes inexperienced players and expect everybody to be on their A game because that isn't going to happen. Every difficult fight is always going to take experience to advance so you should really just train yourselves to have patience because I can guarantee you that will go a lot further than coming to the forums, trying to make up rules, and then whining when everybody doesn't follow the same opinion.

[Tazo]

Am I being trolled?
woosh?

If I am, I'll take the bait.
@Kuwagami I do the freshly released content with FC mates and try to figure it out on our own. After that it is simply wasting peoples time to join a group and just go in blind.

I just don't get where these fabled creatures exist that gather together in a party of 8 and do endgame content(blind) after it has been out for a month or more.

[Chippy2]

[1]Watch a video and/or read guides before going through it.

Be more aware, the time you spent learning can save you the frustration of going over and over a run.

[2]You are now eligible for it but that doesnt mean you are "good to go"

Your gears play a crucial part in terms of clearing a run so if you think/know that your barely getting that requirement, use your time more wisely by running more appropriate dungeons so you'll be more prepared for the higher ones.

Why should I be forced to watch a video?. Did the people that did that content before me watch video?. I'll answer that for you in advance NO!!!.I'll DF new content and I'll learn as I go along thanks!. If you don't like it then make your own damn party and stop being such an ass!. I do agree with the gear Levels though when people enter harder content in low gear is just stupid!.

[Doo]

Did the people that did that content before me watch video?.

Probably. I'm sure most of them watched how other fcs do it like with "Worlds first". Unless you're a super hardcore gamer and in a good fc/ls, it will take you a lot longer to be at their level.

Why should I be forced to watch a video?.

To find ways to improve your game and get better. You'll have more fun when you're good at things I suppose instead of wiping over and over.

[Tazo]

Why should I be forced to watch a video?. Did the people that did that content before me watch video?. I'll answer that for you in advance NO!!!.I'll DF new content and I'll learn as I go along thanks!. If you don't like it then make your own damn party and stop being such an ass!. I do agree with the gear Levels though when people enter harder content in low gear is just stupid!.

Yes, the people in your group most likely watched videos or read a general guide on the mechanics of the fight. Would you except their advise on how best to do the fight? If yes, then why not be prepared and do the research yourself? They are basically regurgitating what is already available to you. If you don't want to know anything about the fight, and want to wing it, why should they sit there and wait for you? If you want to do a endgame raid with other individuals that don't want to do any research, then make a PF group yourself.

[Chippy2]

Yes, the people in your group most likely watched videos or read a general guide on the mechanics of the fight. Would you except their advise on how best to do the fight? If yes, then why not be prepared and do the research yourself? They are basically regurgitating what is already available to you. If you don't want to know anything about the fight, and want to wing it, why should they sit there and wait for you? If you want to do a endgame raid with other individuals that don't want to do any research, then make a PF group yourself.

People can give me all the advice in the world it goes in one ear and out the other!. With these fights you NEVER learn until you experience if for yourself that's a FACT!. I could tell you all the Titan Ex mechanics before the fight are you going to remember them all?. I'll answer that for you NO!. You do not learn until you experience it for yourself!.

[Tazo]

People can give me all the advice in the world it goes in one ear and out the other!. With these fights you NEVER learn until you experience if for yourself that's a FACT!. I could tell you all the Titan Ex mechanics before the fight are you going to remember them all?. I'll answer that for you NO!. You do not learn until you experience it for yourself!.

Ill give you a few example off the top of my head. If the tanks know to voke after jumps and/or after landslides, that will save you multiple wipes. Not to mention knowing to voke after 2 stacks. If the DPS/healers dont know where to stand when getting gaoled then that is a sure wipe......can you not see how knowing this can save your group multiple wipes and just valuable time?

[Bakiraka]

People can give me all the advice in the world it goes in one ear and out the other!. With these fights you NEVER learn until you experience if for yourself that's a FACT!. I could tell you all the Titan Ex mechanics before the fight are you going to remember them all?. I'll answer that for you NO!. You do not learn until you experience it for yourself!.

Why is it that whenever people say "that's a fact" on these forums it is always in regards to an opinion they hold that is in no way, shape, or form... a concrete fact?

[Boris1988]

There is never guna be a conclusion to his argument. people who think you should watch a video before you try content want those who dont want to watch a video to make their own parties and vice versa. maybe everyone should stop using the duty finder haha

[Edellis]

There is never guna be a conclusion to his argument. people who think you should watch a video before you try content want those who dont want to watch a video to make their own parties and vice versa. maybe everyone should stop using the duty finder haha

Party Finder is the conclusion to this argument.

Queuing with random people and feeling entitled to getting a specific skill level is an egocentric, pigheaded opinion. Especially when Party Finder exists with an ilvl restriction option.

Like, wth? Nobody owes them anything. If you don't like the skill level, either try to raise it through explanation or flame/ragequit like a typical douche.