4th Starting City-State in 1st Expansion

[EdwinLi]

The expansion will include an increase in level cap and most likely all content will be level 50 and increase from there.

Yes there will be a level cap increase but new classes will have to start at level 1 as well.

I know most people who replied here want the 1st expansion content to favor only players who have played the game long enough to max most of their class to lvl 50 but they also can't ignore the amount of new players the expansion will bring along with the new classes that will start at level 1 even if you have to reach a certain point in the main story to unlock the City-State that has the Class Guild for these new Classes.

Yes they can be lazy and say "If you want to level the new classes from level 1 to "new level cap" you must use FATES, Leves, and Roulette" but we already know the storm this kind of excuse would bring and the amount of post that would pop up complaining that they didn't add anything new outside of what we already have between level 1 - 50 to help support a new set of classes that we will have to level from lvl 1 to the new level cap.

Also a majority of 1st expansion content will cater to level 50s and higher so there shouldn't be a issue with SE adding a new content for low level players as well considering the need for it if SE adds new classes in 1st expansion.

[Wobble]

SE never said Expansion content will be exclusive to lvl 50+ contents.

They can introduce a new starting city-state to serve as new starting content for new characters.

Currently they have mentioned we will be getting a New Race in 1st expansion but it is still possible to introduce a new starting city-state for new characters.

Well considering FFXI is still going and they never did this I highly doubt they will here. In XI new areas would have new jobs you had to quest to unlock, you could not start as those jobs.

[EdwinLi]

Well considering FFXI is still going and they never did this I highly doubt they will here. In XI new areas would have new jobs you had to quest to unlock, you could not start as those jobs.

I swear does the majority of the community only think of "What FFXI did." as their reason?

This is not FFXI! This is FFXIV which is a different game. We do not know how they will handle FFXIV and they never said they will handle contents like FFXI.

[DarkStar]

I find it amusing that so many people are convinced that FFXIV is/should be FFXI 2.0. While it is true that it appears to have borrowed ideas from previous MMOs, it should be noted that not everyone hates FFXIV just because it borrowed such-and-such idea from so-and-so game.

Taking the game by itself and not comparing it to other MMOs, it strikes me as being a well built, self-contained game. While I do feel a little irritated on occasion that certain events are alluded to but never explained, thus reminding you that you're playing the sequel and resorting to second-hand sources to get reliable information on the original, it's only a mild complaint, and all my other complaints can be attributed to the game being in its infancy. I imagine after an expansion and a few patches, most of my current complaints will be gone.

Anyway, as to the subject at hand, I do rather hope to see a fourth starting City State in the future, particularly since if they keep shoving new classes' guilds into the existing city states, it'll start getting rather crowded with all the Guilds. While I can see upwards of four Class Guilds in each city state (Not including the various crafting/gathering guilds), I don't think it'll ever go much higher than that.

As for where said city state could be located, I think it should be mentioned that I recall seeing somewhere that there's a great deal more to the Coerthas Highlands than the bit we can explore. Plus, each city state has about 4 zones it has control over. As such, it wouldn't be that difficult to believe that if Ishgard were to become the next starting city state, it'd come with three zones where lower-level players can explore and level-up in. For that matter, Sharlayan and Ala Mhigo don't have ANY visitable zones available, so SE can very easily decide whether these will be "Starting City-States" or if they'll be higher-level hubs, like Revenant's Toll.

Of course, I'm not saying they can't or shouldn't go the route of locking off certain Classes until you complete a certain quest/quest chain, and then placing the guild for said Class in a higher-level area. If you're high enough level to finish the quest, you're high enough level to saunter on over to said area. You'll have to switch to a higher-level class, teleport, or use a 'taxi' service to get to a leveling area, but it's still a possible method.

Anyway, those're just my thoughts on the matter.

Edit: That 1000 character limit really is annoying, is it not?

[Wobble]

First off I'm not comparing it to FFXI. I am using their past work as a reference of what they have done and why it would be unlikely in this game to stray to far outside of their own game style.

[Wolf_Gang]

A fourth starter? That's stupid and unnecessary.

They would have to add a fourth Grand Company and rework the post-calamity story to make it all fit.

This game has tons of content for new players, and the main story pretty much carries you to Lv50. What sense would it make to further augment low level content? An expansion pack should certainly focus primarily on Lv51+ players.

[EdwinLi]

A fourth starter? That's stupid and unnecessary.

They would have to add a fourth Grand Company and rework the post-calamity story to make it all fit.

This game has tons of content for new players, and the main story pretty much carries you to Lv50. What sense would it make to further augment low level content? An expansion pack should certainly focus primarily on Lv51+ players.

You're thinking far too big like most people. A new starting area does not mean a new Grand Company will be introduced nor required for current storyline to be changed.

While it would be ideal to introduce a new GC through starting areas SE is not bound to requiring all City-States to have a Grand Company.

No offense but I swear all this paranoia about a new starting area requiring the entire 2.0 story to be changed and loss of lvl 51+ content because of a lower level content introduced is a figure of people's imagination.

the Majority of 1st Expansion content will still be mostly higher level content but that should not be a reason to exclude lower levels for the sake of veteran players who have played longer than lower level players or new players. Expansion contents are much larger than Major Update contents which makes have more room for lower level contents than Major Update Contents while still providing a large amount of higher level content for lvl 51+.

First off I'm not comparing it to FFXI. I am using their past work as a reference of what they have done and why it would be unlikely in this game to stray to far outside of their own game style.

That would be the case if the team working on FF14 is the same team working on FF11 but it is not. SE has different teams working on both games and while it would be more comfortable for people who follow FF11 or Veteran FF11 players so they know how updates will be released we do not know how they will handle FF14 content due to a different development team working on FF14.

[CatholicFan]

So, I kind of thought this thread was going to be more about what we think the next possible city-state could be based on in-game evidence and dev statements, but mostly you're just arguing hypotheticals now. I mean, yeah, they could do X, Y, and Z and... BAM! New starting city. It just doesn't seem likely given their track-record with XI. You can argue all you want that "Merh, this game not XI," but a lot of the development teams from XI carried over into XIV. It's not outside the realm of possibility that they'll do roll-outs of new jobs and areas in a similar fashion as they've done previously. I certainly wouldn't wager heavily on it because, well, it's their game; they can do whatever they want. People are just saying, it's quite plausible that the game will follow similar methodology to XI.

[EdwinLi]

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Ya sorry about that.

I simply asked a question about a possible new City-State to be a new starting area but the question being ignored because currently it would appear impossible due through FFXI design which eventually things got out of hand.

As stated in OP this is simple a "IF" question so most people shouldn't feel threatened by the thought of a new starting area threating arrives of Higher level content nor completely changing current content.

I simply asked "If" they added a New Starter City-State. I never once said they "will" add a new City-State in my OP so there should have never been issues with this question over something that may or may not happen.

The question in OP is still the same and you are right about what the question is about. I just wish people would just answer the question rather than treating this as a completely different question.