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    Quote Originally Posted by Skies View Post
    You are wrong about the first fact, NeoAmon
    SE is in fact okay with third party parsers (although they warn you to use those at your own risk), what they are not okay with are programs which directly affect the XIV client... Of which at least one of the more well-known parsers do as it can display overlays that the game does not naturally have. I didn't even know it did that, actually, until I checked the thinger again after hearing some rumors.
    Maybe, just those reddit posts are making me panic about it. In any case, it does not matter, I want SE in game parser .
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoAmon View Post
    Maybe, just those reddit posts are making me panic about it. In any case, it does not matter, I want SE in game parser .
    They kind of promised us more development along these lines too yet haven't delivered.

    I wouldn't worry about parsing. None of the current parsers alter the game's memory and, therefore, SE can't detect it less you mention it in chat. If a DPS is doing bad DPS, just tell him (while you know it's kind of silly) that you noticed he wasn't far up on the enmity bar and didn't use quelling strikes. Kind of hint that you know his DPS is bad and have actual numbers without saying so.

    The same story with Windower as well. SE never officially endorsed it yet they never banned players for using it, either since..you know..it's kind of important to be able to alt tab out of a game. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitome View Post
    The same story with Windower as well. SE never officially endorsed it yet they never banned players for using it, either since..you know..it's kind of important to be able to alt tab out of a game. lol
    As far as I know, they did ban players for using Windower.
    While it may have been that they can't detect it running, talking about running it can be proof enough, or simply by detecting patterns that were simply not possible without it.
    And it was used to give Windower users unfair advantages, so definitely was ban-worthy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    As far as I know, they did ban players for using Windower.
    You're welcome to post a thread to me where this was the case. ^^ Never, in the 8 years I spent playing 11, did I see such a conversation with a GM about Windower and/or seeing a person banned for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitome View Post
    You're welcome to post a thread to me where this was the case. ^^ Never, in the 8 years I spent playing 11, did I see such a conversation with a GM about Windower and/or seeing a person banned for it.
    http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/571/...sing-windower/

    There are other reports out there of people being banned for using Windower...
    Windower was more than just a tool to let you alt-tab without crashing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/571/...sing-windower/

    There are other reports out there of people being banned for using Windower...
    Windower was more than just a tool to let you alt-tab without crashing.
    A thread from 2006 with 4 responses and no conversations with GMs talking about Windower.

    Hm what was going on in 2006..oh! Right: RMT purge.

    http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics...13/detail.html

    Oh look: the STFU was also formed in 2006.

    You're right: Windower allowed you to add more lines to your macros and allowed you to view party TP: something that should have been there to begin with.

    None of those could be detected by SE because they made no alteration to FFXI just like parsers can not be detected by SE because they make no alteration to FFXIV.
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