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    Ishtanii's Avatar
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    Ishtanii Do'urden
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    Archer Lv 50

    Thank you part 1

    *Slow Clap* Thank you HyperiusUltima and Kamidel!

    I have been lucky. So far I have yet to be kicked from a group. So far I have received commendations in all but one dungeon that I have run. (And I admit I really blew that one big time. I have the flu and had a coughing fit that caused me--a DPS--to accidentally over pull trash mobs and die when my mouse jerked). But I was also in a group that dropped Titan in under 3 minutes so I must not be THAT horrible--even though I prefer to play Archer rather than Bard like everyone else would prefer. (When everyone else pays my monthly subscription...then they can dictate what / how I play.)

    That said, I and many others like me, are handicapped. My vision is poor and I have arthritis. My health is chronically poor so I am a freaking shut in and games are an escape from my prison. I know a blind guy who is a gamer too.
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    Ishtanii Do'urden
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    Thank you part 2

    Go the way of WoW with meters, and you slam the door in the face of an entire segment of the population. This is a game. Disabled people are already shut out of segments of society. Why can't you at least let us play games?

    If you want professional groups to run dungeons with, set up a message board to sign up to run with groups who meet specific criteria. But if you are running pug, just play and have FUN with whatever group you get--no matter how lame--just laugh. So you wiped. So what? You won't die in the real world and people who are not UBER GAMERS will love you for having a great sense of humor and allowing them to have a little fun in their lives too.

    Besides if YOU really are so awesome, you wouldn't do pugs anyway. You'd have a set group of fellow pro-gamers to run with and not rely on the dungeon finder.

    Many, many thanks to all of you kind enough to run with all kinds of players...noob to pro. People like you make this world a better place.
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    I agree. Everyone has different levels of skill and SE has already said that removing players from the group because of different playstyles is not against the TOS. Doing much lower damage compared to the others in the group is definitely a different playstyle.
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    Zorlinta Freespirit
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    Parsers are just the first step to make bots. So those are against TOS, and there are not a true valid reason for it use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorlinta View Post
    Parsers are just the first step to make bots. So those are against TOS, and there are not a true valid reason for it use.
    Parsers have nothing to do with botting. It does nothing to control or move your character in any way, it simply displays information. Parseing has nothing to do with botting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Netsyphen View Post
    it simply displays information. Parseing has nothing to do with botting.
    Its the feedback information that bots needs for the key stroke binding that it sends.
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    Lanfear Sessurea
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    They could even just put the group parsers in "hardcore " content, and have a self parser accessible on striking dummies. I don't think any1 tackling alex savage will mind any criticism that might help them perform better and casual players would be free of a parsers scrutiny while doin stuff like primals, ct and dungeons.

    Se should cater for all types, casual and hardcore, especially since Yoshi p sorta hinted act sux when questioned about mcn dps, how about se share their cool parser with us?
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    Zorlinta, what exactly do you believe an 'official' parser would provide to a bot that the running memory doesn't already provide (which incidentally is where current parsers are getting their info from)? Bots already exist and they don't need parsers to run. Some are programmed very good, some are absolutely terrible, but NONE of them need an official parser to get feedback information.
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    continue or simply the rest of my writing.

    there are character limitations here on this forum.(for a quick reply) :/

    i know not everyone is like those People but... you know i can work with real/true Criticism, but just saying your DPS or HPS is to low so "Goodby" or some flaming without actual helping, is something that should be banned in any (MMO)game.


    sorry for my english, and if my writing sounds to rough i'm sorry for that as well.
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    Last edited by sucht; 07-11-2015 at 12:31 AM.

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    Enthnal Enturai
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    Faerie
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by sucht View Post
    these things "WILL" get used like they are used in WoW, mainly for dissing/flaming others, there is a learning curve you know, not everyone gets it the first or second or even the third try you discourage them with stuff like that and destroy a otherwise nice game for them.

    if you are in fact better, than take your time and speak up to those you think are not that good, but do not use some tool nobody "Really" needs, only to say that he is bad or a noob or what ever.

    don't get me wrong, i don't have anything against those type of addons if they are used on training dummies, where you can actually learn your rotation and tweak your DPS(Damage Output or even Healing rota and output) without f****** up the Raid or dungeon, i have played WoW since Beta, and it was not long after these addons came, that they where used exactly for flaming and stuff like that by People who think they are better at everything while in fact they are not. (most of them)

    continue or simply the rest of my writing.

    there are character limitations here on this forum.(for a quick reply) :/

    i know not everyone is like those People but... you know i can work with real/true Criticism, but just saying your DPS or HPS is to low so "Goodby" or some flaming without actual helping, is something that should be banned in any (MMO)game.


    sorry for my english, and if my writing sounds to rough i'm sorry for that as well.
    Will get used? I feel this is completely incorrect. Right now with the third party applications you can track everyone's damage done. Currently, you can dis and flame other for doing poorly based on those numbers and just not say you are running a seperate dps parser.

    What a built in DPS parse will do:
    • Allow for a personal meter to track all information and give people the information they want. DPS checks are all over in this game and knowing what is holding you personally back is good for self improvement.
    • By default having sharing this information with ANY other player off. Then allow us that want to race dps/hps against each other to have a feature to share the information without a need for another third party application.
    • Allow for SE to ban/stop third aprty applications. As a game not built on the add-on model they really should protect their investment and not allow third party applications since it's against their ToS and leaves them open for more than just a dps parser to be made.
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